‘23 AL DL Hunter Osborne (Alabama commit)

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DaddyChad said:
Throwing that oil money around. Texas and A&M are going to be a pain in the ass if they get everything together bc they have more money than everyone else.
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it’s clear we are in a whole new era of college football

you can pretty much throw out any biases you have against traditional powers who have been down on their luck in recent years

if they have lots of money floating in and around the program and highly motivated boosters and alumni, then they need to be respected

personally, I think this will make the game a ton more interesting than simply watching Bama dominate the landscape

hopefully this shift sends Saban to a quick retirement

he can’t control it all in this era
 
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Revived2002 said:
it’s clear we are in a whole new era of college football

you can pretty much throw out any biases you have against traditional powers who have been down on their luck in recent years

if they have lots of money floating in and around the program and highly motivated boosters and alumni, then they need to be respected

personally, I think this will make the game a ton more interesting than simply watching Bama dominate the landscape

hopefully this shift sends Saban to a quick retirement

he can’t control it all in this era
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Bama can’t control things as well. Bama was spending money under the table for years. Anyone else does that and they’re swiftly investigated by ncaa.
 
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Revived2002 said:
it’s clear we are in a whole new era of college football

you can pretty much throw out any biases you have against traditional powers who have been down on their luck in recent years

if they have lots of money floating in and around the program and highly motivated boosters and alumni, then they need to be respected

personally, I think this will make the game a ton more interesting than simply watching Bama dominate the landscape

hopefully this shift sends Saban to a quick retirement

he can’t control it all in this era
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Don’t fool yourself. Bama is gonna be on top as long as Saban is there.

The same teams will be good. OSU, UGA, ND, remove OK and insert USC, Clemson will remain good, LSU will win a ton, etc.

What you *might* get is a team that has developed some good players and they luck out in the portal and go on a run. But most likely the best portal guys will continue to go to the current teams on top bc they want to win and they want to maximize earning potential via NIL.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Bama can’t control things as well. Bama was spending money under the table for years. Anyone else does that and they’re swiftly investigated by ncaa.
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No. UGA, UF, Miami, FSU, OSU, Clemson, AU. All have been throwing tons of cash around for decades. How many of those teams have really been investigated? Teams aren’t even hiding it anymore. Yet here we are on the sideline just watching these schools get these good recruits but we have to “spend wisely.”
 
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How does On3 come up with their recruiting predictions? Is Gerry Hamilton the only expert to make a prediction on Osborne? No CB’s at all on 247.
 
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MarcoVol said:
Don’t fool yourself. Bama is gonna be on top as long as Saban is there.

The same teams will be good. OSU, UGA, ND, remove OK and insert USC, Clemson will remain good, LSU will win a ton, etc.

What you *might* get is a team that has developed some good players and they luck out in the portal and go on a run. But most likely the best portal guys will continue to go to the current teams on top bc they want to win and they want to maximize earning potential via NIL.
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I`m not convinced of that. I think it has all changed. but time will tell
 
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MarcoVol said:
Don’t fool yourself. Bama is gonna be on top as long as Saban is there.

The same teams will be good. OSU, UGA, ND, remove OK and insert USC, Clemson will remain good, LSU will win a ton, etc.

What you *might* get is a team that has developed some good players and they luck out in the portal and go on a run. But most likely the best portal guys will continue to go to the current teams on top bc they want to win and they want to maximize earning potential via NIL.
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I stopped reading after you mentioned ND.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Throwing that oil money around. Texas and A&M are going to be a pain in the ass if they get everything together bc they have more money than everyone else.
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Still believe my long standing theory that the NCAA will attempt to level the playing field WITHIN THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SUPREME COURT DECISION by inviting every kid to get every valid NIL dollar they can get from any company or collective, BUT BUT BUT they will limit the number of dollars at each institution just like they limit COUNTERS today....

They will continue to sell the amateur model for the entirety of the NCAA in order to be able to require those getting money to complete a waiver that defines the amount of NIL money they are to receive. Fill out the waiver and you are good to go. The rest is just math, just like 85 is math. They can't put the genies back in the bottles, but they can make sure they are distributed and that a few crazy rich folks cannot dominate the scene. Worst case, if they get a raise that sends the school over the cap they get to keep the money and spend an NIL redshirt year, or take advantage of the easy transfer rules since the money cannot be linked to the institution. I have laid out a two tier system with two different caps, one for low end burger, wing, and T-shirt deals and one for those with deals over X. That way nobody has to sweat the little deals and the paperwork for the big deals will not require any significant groups to track.

I don't see anything in conflict with the court decision with this setup and every institution not at the top of the NIL money foodchain will vote for it. Would also put some reason in the amounts collectives offer as over paying would further limit the number of players they can sign tied to a specific school.

There you have it, the problems of the collegiate football world resolved.
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
Still believe my long standing theory that the NCAA will attempt to level the playing field WITHIN THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SUPREME COURT DECISION by inviting every kid to get every valid NIL dollar they can get from any company or collective, BUT BUT BUT they will limit the number of dollars at each institution just like they limit COUNTERS today....

They will continue to sell the amateur model for the entirety of the NCAA in order to be able to require those getting money to complete a waiver that defines the amount of NIL money they are to receive. Fill out the waiver and you are good to go. The rest is just math, just like 85 is math. They can't put the genies back in the bottles, but they can make sure they are distributed and that a few crazy rich folks cannot dominate the scene. Worst case, if they get a raise that sends the school over the cap they get to keep the money and spend an NIL redshirt year, or take advantage of the easy transfer rules since the money cannot be linked to the institution. I have laid out a two tier system with two different caps, one for low end burger, wing, and T-shirt deals and one for those with deals over X. That way nobody has to sweat the little deals and the paperwork for the big deals will not require any significant groups to track.

I don't see anything in conflict with the court decision with this setup and every institution not at the top of the NIL money foodchain will vote for it. Would also put some reason in the amounts collectives offer as over paying would further limit the number of players they can sign tied to a specific school.

There you have it, the problems of the collegiate football world resolved.
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Anything that limits earning potential is going to be met with heavy resistance imo.
 
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Dudley Smith said:
How does On3 come up with their recruiting predictions? Is Gerry Hamilton the only expert to make a prediction on Osborne? No CB’s at all on 247.
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It’s based on both CBs and social media. So if an expert makes a prediction and then Twitter explodes with the players name and school name in the same post, then the prediction machine will shift that direction.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Anything that limits earning potential is going to be met with heavy resistance imo.
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No limit on earning of any individual, just limits on institutions. How can that be in conflict with the ruling? Could end up with a collective favoring Alabama having to pay a guy that goes to Auburn... just a risk they have to take since they can make their deals and the school not be able to accept them, just like they were the 86th guy on their list. Woe be to the collective that tries to limit where a kid plays after signing him. There will be a lot of acts of faith between collectives and the players. Because his name, his image and his likeness does not change with uniform colors and you never know after signing if a coach will insult Mom with 50 other schools wanting him on their team. A collective better be able to recoup their money in multiple locations as their relationship is with the player, not the schools. Like right now, IF IF IF the big OL made a deal with that group down there, the player cannot sign or enroll in school for months yet. Same for us with Nico.
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
No limit on earning of any individual, just limits on institutions. How can that be in conflict with the ruling? Could end up with a collective favoring Alabama having to pay a guy that goes to Auburn... just a risk they have to take since they can make their deals and the school not be able to accept them, just like they were the 86th guy on their list. Woe be to the collective that tries to limit where a kid plays after signing him. There will be a lot of acts of faith between collectives and the players. Because his name, his image and his likeness does not change with uniform colors and you never know after signing if a coach will insult Mom with 50 other schools wanting him on their team. A collective better be able to recoup their money in multiple locations as their relationship is with the player, not the schools. Like right now, IF IF IF the big OL made a deal with that group down there, the player cannot sign or enroll in school for months yet. Same for us with Nico.
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Francis isn’t signed…. They just showed him what he would get….. nico is signed but I’m sure his likeness deal is tied into a certain area.
 
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Do we have any legitimate shot with this kid or is it just wishful thinking?
 
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