‘23 AL DL Hunter Osborne (Alabama commit)

Who didn't know what to expect from UT after the first 4-5 games last year? The playbook wasn't complex or huge on O. Apparently it will expand significantly this fall.

Nothing is ever "cut and dried". You always deal with things. But that's how coaches are measured. If his O becomes ineffective or if the D doesn't become effective... who does that reflect on?
It's not meant to be complex. That's part of the point.

Chaney's 300 page playbook that took a nasa engineer just to line us up correctly and averaged 22 ppg...now that was complex. Fine if you have the same QB for 10 years and it's their FT job. Not so much for college kids coming and going year after year that have a full obligation outside of football. I think these "simplistic" and fast offenses have shown far superior.
 
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😩😩😩Are y’all REALLY talking about firing another coach so we can have another circus hire for the media to make fun of??? There are not that many good coaches wanting to come to TN to have to worry about getting fired year 3 when they haven’t been given a chance to build their program in the toughest conference…let alone GREAT coaches! We NEED CJH to stay here for at least 5 years to build the program up from the ashes it was! Remember they only expected us to win 4 games last year!
 
I agree with you. My point was that he was talking as if Heupel has already coached 2 seasons at UT.
None of us have any idea what year 2 holds. I do know one thing though. What Heupel did with that depleted roster in year 1 was nothing short of miraculous. Nobody thought we had a chance at 7 wins. The improvement on offense from the previous year was insane. Year 1 to year 2 should see even more improvement and with UF and LSU being down and Pitt losing Pickett, we have a realistic shot of 10 wins including a bowl game. Not probable, but realistic.
Pitt lost Pickett and Jordan Addison at WR. They also lost their OC. That game should definitely be a W.
 
Pitt lost Pickett and Jordan Addison at WR. They also lost their OC. That game should definitely be a W.
I think they'll still be a tough game, but losing their QB, best WR, and OC and the fact that we have Hooker playing instead of Milton this time is a completely different game and outcome. I think we win by double digits, but wouldn't be surprised if it's close.
 
Haven’t won 10 games since 2007.

85-88 since then.

Build the statue.
We won 10 plus games 5 times in the 90’s. And had 2-3 9 win seasons in the 90’s. 8 wins was our worst season in the nineties. We went 11-1 in 1989. We also won 11 in 2001 and 10 in 2003 and 04. Just sayin! Check the all time records. GBO!
 
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It's not meant to be complex. That's part of the point.

Chaney's 300 page playbook that took a nasa engineer just to line us up correctly and averaged 22 ppg...now that was complex. Fine if you have the same QB for 10 years and it's their FT job. Not so much for college kids coming and going year after year that have a full obligation outside of football. I think these "simplistic" and fast offenses have shown far superior.
I agree though I think UT goes deeper this year. I will be shocked if they don't throw to the middle of the field more this fall.

I guess there's always been some debate over whether to be "multiple" and complex or simple with great execution. I think in addition to running fast last fall, UT executed much better than they have in a very long time. They didn't have Pruitt's "one guy screwing up and ruining the whole play". Guys ran their routes. The QB made good reads which were apparently simplified by the scheme. The OL's seemed to know who they were supposed to block even if they did get beat too often. They played like a team that seemed to know what it was doing.

I tend to blame Pruitt more than Chaney. I think left to his own devices Chaney would have produced a better O. In part, I think Pruitt's "old school" ideas about playing ball control and great D handcuffed Chaney.

But IMO what Heupel does is still better... even though simple.
 
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I agree though I think UT goes deeper this year. I will be shocked if they don't throw to the middle of the field more this fall.

I guess there's always been some debate over whether to be "multiple" and complex or simple with great execution. I think in addition to running fast last fall, UT executed much better than they have in a very long time. They didn't have Pruitt's "one guy screwing up and ruining the whole play". Guys ran their routes. The QB made good reads which were apparently simplified by the scheme. The OL's seemed to know who they were supposed to block even if they did get beat too often. They played like a team that seemed to know what it was doing.

I tend to blame Pruitt more than Chaney. I think left to his own devices Chaney would have produced a better O. In part, I think Pruitt's "old school" ideas about playing ball control and great D handcuffed Chaney.

But IMO what Heupel does is still better... even though simple.
I agree 100% there were many times last year the middle of the field was there for the taking.
 
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I agree 100% there were many times last year the middle of the field was there for the taking.
The middle can be high reward but it can definitely be high risk. Even with Hooker a year into the system, the OL needs to be better so he can make good reads down the middle.
 
Still believe my long standing theory that the NCAA will attempt to level the playing field WITHIN THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SUPREME COURT DECISION by inviting every kid to get every valid NIL dollar they can get from any company or collective, BUT BUT BUT they will limit the number of dollars at each institution just like they limit COUNTERS today....

They will continue to sell the amateur model for the entirety of the NCAA in order to be able to require those getting money to complete a waiver that defines the amount of NIL money they are to receive. Fill out the waiver and you are good to go. The rest is just math, just like 85 is math. They can't put the genies back in the bottles, but they can make sure they are distributed and that a few crazy rich folks cannot dominate the scene. Worst case, if they get a raise that sends the school over the cap they get to keep the money and spend an NIL redshirt year, or take advantage of the easy transfer rules since the money cannot be linked to the institution. I have laid out a two tier system with two different caps, one for low end burger, wing, and T-shirt deals and one for those with deals over X. That way nobody has to sweat the little deals and the paperwork for the big deals will not require any significant groups to track.

I don't see anything in conflict with the court decision with this setup and every institution not at the top of the NIL money foodchain will vote for it. Would also put some reason in the amounts collectives offer as over paying would further limit the number of players they can sign tied to a specific school.

There you have it, the problems of the collegiate football world resolved.

The big dog schools that have paid before NIL will never stand for it because what you suggest will level playing field.

If the other NCAA schools force it, you could see the Big 32/48/64 break away. I think we are already seeing the SEC setup to have its way.
 
Lots of things have to go right. But there are 10 winnable games on the schedule. Pitt should be a win. UT is in a better position right now than UF. LSU has issues that Kelly may struggle to get ironed out by that point in the season.
If Hendon Hooker is better...I don't think those teams stop him. Hooker could be like Matt Corral last year. There were 10 games where he was the superior QB and that's why they won them.

LSU has way more issues then I think people realize. I look at their turnover...it's massive and it's from a disfunctional average team.

10 guys drafted. 4 undrafted free agents. 10 transfers and many of them played big minutes. Return one starter on the offensive line who was in and out of the lineup on a unit that was ranked 111th in sacks allowed. Whole new staff.

Sure Brian Kelly is good, they have talent, they hit the transfer market hard, but I'll certainly be impressed if they're really good. We should have a pretty good shot to beat them.

We have far more continuity than they do.
 
I like Heupel. He has given reasons to be positive. However he left 3 potential wins on the field last fall. You can make excuses or give reasons but that doesn't go away until he "steals" a couple that maybe should have been losses.

A lot of us suspected that Jones wasn't the guy because he consistently lost the "Vol leaners" and didn't win many if any "opponent leaners". He squandered talent and opportunity.

I personally like Heupel a whole lot more than Jones. I think he's a far more talented coach and a much better leader. He still has to win games and has to get more of the "leaners".
Did he leave the wins on the field or did we get robbed plain and simple? The ole miss and Purdue games were absolutely stolen from us
 
Did he leave the wins on the field or did we get robbed plain and simple? The ole miss and Purdue games were absolutely stolen from us

Robbed of 2 and then one was on CJH because it took him too long to realize the team needed a Hooker.
 
Pitt lost Pickett and Jordan Addison at WR. They also lost their OC. That game should definitely be a W.

Getting Slovis to transfer from USC mitigates the loss of Pickett some, but yeah, we should win that game. Hell, shoulda won last year.
 
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Did he leave the wins on the field or did we get robbed plain and simple? The ole miss and Purdue games were absolutely stolen from us
Both. There were plays in both games where UT got hosed. There were also missed opportunities. IMO, the constant holding by OM's OL's was a much bigger factor than any one missed call.

In both games the failure to stop the opponent on 3rd/4th downs kept UT from pulling away.
 
Both. There were plays in both games where UT got hosed. There were also missed opportunities. IMO, the constant holding by OM's OL's was a much bigger factor than any one missed call.

In both games the failure to stop the opponent on 3rd/4th downs kept UT from pulling away.
Also Velus fumbling that opening punt was verrrry costly. That is forgotten but that alone made winning that game a lot more difficult.
 
We won 10 plus games 5 times in the 90’s. And had 2-3 9 win seasons in the 90’s. 8 wins was our worst season in the nineties. We went 11-1 in 1989. We also won 11 in 2001 and 10 in 2003 and 04. Just sayin! Check the all time records. GBO!

You’re right, we were really good 23-33 years ago.
 
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The middle can be high reward but it can definitely be high risk. Even with Hooker a year into the system, the OL needs to be better so he can make good reads down the middle.
RB wheel route and middle of field
Just Those two options on top of what we did last year will be big plays bc everyone already knows what they have to try and cover
 
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That’s exactly my point. A stud LB and CB or two in this portal could’ve been the difference in us potentially going 10-2 this upcoming season rather than another 7-5 year or 8-4, and if Heupel could’ve gone 10-2 in year 2 recruits that we missed on like Parker, Burley, Benson, Rojas, Cobb and most likely M’Pemba, Simmons, Osborne, Jackson, and Matthews and potential guys in the portal start taking notice and we’re potentially looking at a top 5 class rather than top 12-15


Sounds like you've got it all figured out. I see no reason to even play the games this season.
 
That’s exactly my point. A stud LB and CB or two in this portal could’ve been the difference in us potentially going 10-2 this upcoming season rather than another 7-5 year or 8-4, and if Heupel could’ve gone 10-2 in year 2 recruits that we missed on like Parker, Burley, Benson, Rojas, Cobb and most likely M’Pemba, Simmons, Osborne, Jackson, and Matthews and potential guys in the portal start taking notice and we’re potentially looking at a top 5 class rather than top 12-15
Getting Verse, a corner, linebacker and a RB in the portal would have GUARANTEED 10-2!

10-2 very on the table still.

We will be better

Pitt worse
Florida won't be as good as it was in week 4 against us last year
LSU won't be great
Kentucky ain't beating us in Neyland again
Mizzou sucks
We were up 35-0 against USCjr last year. They had better improve quite a bit to beat us.
 
I agree 100% there were many times last year the middle of the field was there for the taking.
Part of the "extreme" stretch scheme for running the ball and stressing the LBs. Yes I do think we could dial it up some. But it has to be very well timed and pretty rare. Otherwise you kill your bread and butter.

And SJT I do agree we'll add more in Hooker's 2nd year. Js it won't become complex by any means. It shouldn't be.
 
Spoke again with a trusted source in the state of Alabama. Hunter Osborne and family continue to communicate and have good dialogue with the Texas staff. This recruitment is getting different reactions based on talking to different sources. One source continues to think Tennessee could win out, and that Clemson isn’t the favorite in the circle. Another source believes Texas could win out. Even the timeline is a bit all over the place. Osborne has planned to commit closer to the first game of the season in August for some time.

- Gerry Hamilton Texas Mod ON3
 

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