Alabama's recruiting strategy

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#26
Should be everyone's recruiting strategy in my book. Either get with it or get left behind.
 
#27
#27
utvolpj said:
no idea the qualifications but it appears, at least from the story, that the recruits are told it's a 1 year thing and they must continue to earn the money
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That's the problem, nobody does, and I suspect Saban doesn't either. It is at the whim of a coach whether or not an athlete gets to stay on scholarship. Again, Sabam is getting paid $4 million. How is it the kids fault that Saban got it wrong?


utvolpj said:
no one on an athletic scholarship is guaranteed 4 years. And both the academic and athletic side are being paid to go to school. It's not much but is better than many get. Both know the goals they need to hit to keep that money coming so it's just a matter of getting it done.
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I disagree with the bolded. There is no objective goal set forth for the athlete to stay on scholarship. Again, it is the whim of a coach that gets to decide if he keeps the scholarship. The academic student has a GPA he needs to maintain and is aware of this before he signs the scholarship.


utvolpj said:
how much profit are you making off a kid who stays 5 years and never sees the field? These are the guys getting cut not the revenue producers. Is it tough? Sure, but it's how life works
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I'm not saying Saban is breaking any rules, because he is not. In order to stay competitive, this probably needs to be done. My objection is philosophical. Naive or not, the spirit of college athletics is student first and amateur sports second. If the NCAA wants to allow this kind of crap to continue, they need to come up with a way to get these kids a bigger portion of the pie that everybody else is making. Again, Saban is handsomely paid, he shouldn't force a 18 year old kid that doesn't know any better to pay because he made the mistake. It simply isn't right. The system not only takes advantage of the athlete, but it also makes them pay (with this oversigning crap) when the coach makes the error of not evaluating correctly. This is amateur athletics, a 4 year education at the school the kid signed at should be a guarantee.
 
#29
#29
I think it let's the coaches off the hook for poor talent evaluation. It would be more interesting if they were four year contracts.

This is nothing new, but its pretty cutthroat. Another reason I think they should be paid as they are being treated like at-will employees.
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#30
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utvolpj said:
but it's not. Should the player also guarantee the school 4 years of service?
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No because they don't get paid, and the school signs new players every year. That isn't an apples to apples comparison and you know it.
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#31
#31
Just because something is legal within the rules doesn't mean it's ethical.
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Vols520 said:
No because they don't get paid, and the school signs new players every year. That isn't an apples to apples comparison and you know it.
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sure it is when people are throwing around the word contract. Players getting paid is also a different argument

And why just 4 years? Are we doing away with the redshirt?
 
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utvolpj said:
but it's not. Should the player also guarantee the school 4 years of service?
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That's a huge sticking point for me. If the school is locked in to a 4 year deal, the player has to be, too. Otherwise the system will get broken in a hurry.
 
#34
#34
bamawriter said:
That's a huge sticking point for me. If the school is locked in to a 4 year deal, the player has to be, too. Otherwise the system will get broken in a hurry.
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The problem with this point is the fact that he's telling kids he had the right to effectively terminate the deal, yet they have no such right, unless they're willing to sit a year.
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BigPapaVol said:
The problem with this point is the fact that he's telling kids he had the right to effectively terminate the deal, yet they have no such right, unless they're willing to sit a year.
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If the schools can reassess after a year, then why can't the kids? Double standard as usual with the NCAA.
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BigPapaVol said:
The problem with this point is the fact that he's telling kids he had the right to effectively terminate the deal, yet they have no such right, unless they're willing to sit a year.
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First, Saban hasn't terminated any scholarship. He's chosen not to renew some scholarships.

Second, I am all for doing away with the one-year transfer rule. It's needlessly punitive to the athlete. I think it's justifiable that a player not be allowed to transfer to a team on his current team's schedule, but aside from that, the kid should be able to play when and where he wants.
 
#37
#37
Very few scholarships are for more than one year. I don't see why athletic ones should be either.
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#38
#38
milohimself said:
Very few scholarships are for more than one year. I don't see why athletic ones should be either.
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It's a double standard. How many times do we see college football coaches not letting players out of their scholarships? Why can't the players also reassess after a year if they think they made a bad decision?

If it was equitable, I wouldn't mind. Again, the players get the short end of the stick.
 
#39
#39
BigPapaVol said:
The problem with this point is the fact that he's telling kids he had the right to effectively terminate the deal, yet they have no such right, unless they're willing to sit a year.
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they don't have to sit out if they don't want to. That's all up to school choice
 
#43
#43
smaller division doesn't mean worse academically. They are student-athletes right?
 
#45
#45
Many of the top academic schools in the nation play in 1AA. I'm assuming you've heard of the Ivy League.
 
#47
#47
utvolpj said:
I didn't answer because it was idiotic. I've seen better attempts from BOP1
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Not as idiotic as your attempt to act is if the current policy enacted by the NCAA is sound

I honestly doubt you know the reason I asked the question.
 
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