Alex Grinch out at USC and that might start a DC carrousel if Heupel is looking to replace Banks.

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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
With Alex Grinch getting canned at USC, it opens up a DC position at a high profile school. They've got money and are headed to the B1G, so it'll be a reasonably desired job.

Lincoln Riley needs a strong, "splash" DC hire because USC is not living up to the hype, especially with their defense. I'll bet he's calling some "there's no way they'd leave...." coordinators and might land one.

For us, Grinch isn't someone we'd want, IMO, but as things start to shuffle to fill the USC job and if Heupel is looking to upgrade/make a change, a lot of resumes are probably getting polished up.
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You want to replace a Coach who's unit has gotten better every year ? Why not, makes perfect sense.
 
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I will be curious to see if Martinez gets a contract extension or not. Tgis is the kast year of his deal. Is it typical for a coach to go into the last yeat of his deal without being extended?
 
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VolDaddy61 said:
You want to replace a Coach who's unit has gotten better every year ? Why not, makes perfect sense.
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The vacancy at USC is GOING to be filled by a good DC.

Banks is in that group. He very well might get a look and/or get an offer from USC. Good coaches make moves that are either good for their family or good for their career.

If Banks wants to get back to the B1G and be closer to a B1G head coach job, it's a decent lateral move.

Regardless, the USC job will leave a good vacancy at another DC position...... it's the coach carrousel effect.
 
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sjt18 said:
I think Banks is too prone to miscalculations in his game plans. That said, it is far more likely that he leaves for an HC or NFL job than terminated. His "averages" are good. It is the sporadic failures that make him frustrating.

That said, UT has a couple of CBs that look to have more talent than any of the veterans. Just need some seasoning. Great cover guys make DCs look like geniuses.
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Good cover guys even made ole cornbread look like a genius at gumpville, and that is damn hard to do
 
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lastlapuncle said:
SayUWant,Why would you want to get rid of Coach Banks?We are 27 in the ncaa in defense,up from 79 or 97.You need to get back on your Gerbers.
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You realize the USC job is a good job and you're saying Banks is good at what he does, but you can't see the possibility of him being a candidate for that job?

It's a lateral move back to the B1G where he always worked before coming to UT. It's a big name program with a similar salary to what he's making. It arguably puts him in a better position to get a B1G head coach job.

It's a definite possibility.
 
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dobre_shunka said:
Tennessee's defensive 3rd down conversion rate is 33.8% which is 28th in FBS. Being in the top quartile isn't good enough?
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really??? Sir, I did not know that fact.
Perhaps it's my BVS / VFL / Orange Blood that makes it seem like that number is a lot higher.
Just seems like when ever we have a team pinned in at 3rd and 5 or more, they seem to convert at a high rate.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
With Alex Grinch getting canned at USC, it opens up a DC position at a high profile school. They've got money and are headed to the B1G, so it'll be a reasonably desired job.

Lincoln Riley needs a strong, "splash" DC hire because USC is not living up to the hype, especially with their defense. I'll bet he's calling some "there's no way they'd leave...." coordinators and might land one.

For us, Grinch isn't someone we'd want, IMO, but as things start to shuffle to fill the USC job and if Heupel is looking to upgrade/make a change, a lot of resumes are probably getting polished up.
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Ignorant last paragraph.
 
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05_never_again said:
Who do people say he's a better coach than, if he's overrated? He's lost 15 games in 6+ seasons. That's pretty good, but nobody thinks he's better than any of the top coaches in the game.

He won the Big 12 4 times in 5 years at OU and made the CFP 3 times. His downfall always, always, has been the defense.
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Sometimes it's not about the number of losses-it's who you lose to.

Riley made his name beating up on B12 schools when everyone thought that conference was a dead man walking. As soon as they played another decent team, the Sooners lost. Every year.

He has basically followed this pattern at USC. Any time the Trojans play a team with an actual pulse, they lose.

I'm not saying Riley isn't a good offensive guy-he is. Lord knows he's a great recruiter. The problem lies when he tries to put the whole puzzle together.

I watch a fair amount of Oklahoma games as they are 2 hours up I-35. In Riley's years at OU-there is only one game where I thought any decision by Riley won the Sooners the game-and that was when he pulled Rattler and put in Caleb Williams.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
With Alex Grinch getting canned at USC, it opens up a DC position at a high profile school. They've got money and are headed to the B1G, so it'll be a reasonably desired job.

Lincoln Riley needs a strong, "splash" DC hire because USC is not living up to the hype, especially with their defense. I'll bet he's calling some "there's no way they'd leave...." coordinators and might land one.

For us, Grinch isn't someone we'd want, IMO, but as things start to shuffle to fill the USC job and if Heupel is looking to upgrade/make a change, a lot of resumes are probably getting polished up.
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Why on earth would anyone for any circumstances think Banks’ job is at risk here.
 
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stolitonic said:
Sometimes it's not about the number of losses-it's who you lose to.

Riley made his name beating up on B12 schools when everyone thought that conference was a dead man walking. As soon as they played another decent team, the Sooners lost. Every year.

He has basically followed this pattern at USC. Any time the Trojans play a team with an actual pulse, they lose.

I'm not saying Riley isn't a good offensive guy-he is. Lord knows he's a great recruiter. The problem lies when he tries to put the whole puzzle together.

I watch a fair amount of Oklahoma games as they are 2 hours up I-35. In Riley's years at OU-there is only one game where I thought any decision by Riley won the Sooners the game-and that was when he pulled Rattler and put in Caleb Williams.
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By "decent team," most of the time you mean "great team." He beat plenty of decent to good teams at OU, occasionally a great team (2017 against Ohio St).

The biggest (and until the last few weeks, the only) knock on him is that he isn't good in the CFP. Which is true. He's 0-3, and was routed in 2 of those 3 games.

There's a lot of talk about him being overrated, but nobody anywhere puts him ahead of coaches who have won CFP games and national titles. Given the games he's won, you have to slot him right behind those coaches, which is what basically everybody seems to do. I'm not sure he's overrated.
 
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This is why we cant have nice things. No one appreciates it what we have. It's about scheme & players that fit. your scheme. The players have bought in & CTB is still developing this defense. We could go back to Sal Sunseri days,l. Just pray we can score more than our opponent. Have we forgot about his play calling against Txas A&M? You'll see it again Saturday in Mizzou
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
With Alex Grinch getting canned at USC, it opens up a DC position at a high profile school. They've got money and are headed to the B1G, so it'll be a reasonably desired job.

Lincoln Riley needs a strong, "splash" DC hire because USC is not living up to the hype, especially with their defense. I'll bet he's calling some "there's no way they'd leave...." coordinators and might land one.

For us, Grinch isn't someone we'd want, IMO, but as things start to shuffle to fill the USC job and if Heupel is looking to upgrade/make a change, a lot of resumes are probably getting polished up.
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I’m sorry but we would want a DC who couldn’t make it in the PAC? And our defense has shown tremendous strides. I just don’t see the logic.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Why on earth would anyone for any circumstances think Banks’ job is at risk here.
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Not so much at risk as opportunities exist for Banks and UT.

Do you agree the vacant USC DC job is going to attract attention from good DCs? Like Banks?

As with Golesh, Heupel has to be ready to replace guys and I think Banks will get a look from Riley because of his B1G experience and his talent.
 
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Batman1948 said:
Simple answer-----our esteemed keyboard coaches are brain dead
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I never played and am not an expert on the technical aspects of football, offense or defense, but from looking with my untrained eyes it appears we have had DCs who were much less competent. Being DC opposite Heupel‘s hurry up offense is certainly a challenge which makes the job of DC much more difficult. Grass isn’t always greener.
 
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Titans4Vols said:
The chances of Banks getting fired after how the defense has improved is probably sitting close to if not directly on 0%.

Banks has shown if he has talent, he can get the defense to perform. Just gotta keep building up the roster.
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Absolutely, and sure fire reason to fire him 👀🤣. I don't understand how people can't see Banks isn't the problem.
 
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