Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

[Grand Vol]

Here's the details of her plan...

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/5729033/Green-New-Deal-FINAL.pdf

 

[Electric Orange]

While we're on the subject of unjustly oppressed minorities, like women, here's an idea I'm sure AOC would like
Australian activist wants to scrap Father's Day, rename it Special Person's Day

 

[Hoosier_Vol]

 

[Electric Orange]

What a child

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

What a child

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

 

[zaqhhh]

I have to say as a economically left winger (social moderate), I was worried at first that AOC would be too focused on identity issues.

I'm fully behind her now though, one month ago, I'd have said she could never be a mainstream contender. Now, I have seen many of my Republican friends get behind her even (granted I'm at a college campus so the Republicans aren't the Insane Climate denying/Slavery light people).

I think I like many others though that the right wing media would attack her relentlessly and define her essentially. She has not only fought back but also showed the hypocrisy of so many in the conservative establishment. I'm sick and tired of apologetic, moderate DINOs. AOC is definitely part of the Democratic future.

 

[tumscalcium]

I have to say as a economically left winger (social moderate), I was worried at first that AOC would be too focused on identity issues.

I'm fully behind her now though, one month ago, I'd have said she could never be a mainstream contender. Now, I have seen many of my Republican friends get behind her even (granted I'm at a college campus so the Republicans aren't the Insane Climate denying/Slavery light people).

You came on way too strong. To troll effectively you need to smoothly slide in.

0/10. F for the effort.

 

[zaqhhh]

You came on way too strong. To troll effectively you need to smoothly slide in.

0/10. F for the effort.

Aww, how cute. I bet you wish I was trolling.

 

[hog88]

I have to say as a economically left winger (social moderate), I was worried at first that AOC would be too focused on identity issues.

I'm fully behind her now though, one month ago, I'd have said she could never be a mainstream contender. Now, I have seen many of my Republican friends get behind her even (granted I'm at a college campus so the Republicans aren't the Insane Climate denying/Slavery light people).

I think I like many others though that the right wing media would attack her relentlessly and define her essentially. She has not only fought back but also showed the hypocrisy of so many in the conservative establishment. I'm sick and tired of apologetic, moderate DINOs. AOC is definitely part of the Democratic future.

Here! Here! You need to help spread her message and convince more people with her views to run for office.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I have to say as a economically left winger (social moderate), I was worried at first that AOC would be too focused on identity issues.

I'm fully behind her now though, one month ago, I'd have said she could never be a mainstream contender. Now, I have seen many of my Republican friends get behind her even (granted I'm at a college campus so the Republicans aren't the Insane Climate denying/Slavery light people).

I think I like many others though that the right wing media would attack her relentlessly and define her essentially. She has not only fought back but also showed the hypocrisy of so many in the conservative establishment. I'm sick and tired of apologetic, moderate DINOs. AOC is definitely part of the Democratic future.

OK then. Let's discuss. What should we as Americans do about global warming? Should those of us with actual jobs be taxed more to pay for college for everybody? How about healthcare? Should I be taxed more to pay for that?

 

[Electric Orange]

I have to say as a economically left winger (social moderate), I was worried at first that AOC would be too focused on identity issues.

I'm fully behind her now though, one month ago, I'd have said she could never be a mainstream contender. Now, I have seen many of my Republican friends get behind her even (granted I'm at a college campus so the Republicans aren't the Insane Climate denying/Slavery light people).

I think I like many others though that the right wing media would attack her relentlessly and define her essentially. She has not only fought back but also showed the hypocrisy of so many in the conservative establishment. I'm sick and tired of apologetic, moderate DINOs. AOC is definitely part of the Democratic future.

Ahahahahahahahaha
Please do go on...

 

[tumscalcium]

Aww, how cute. I bet you wish I was trolling.

Ya, ok. Run along now, I don’t want you to be late for your gender studies class.

 

[82_VOL_83]

I have to say as a economically left winger (social moderate), I was worried at first that AOC would be too focused on identity issues.

I'm fully behind her now though, one month ago, I'd have said she could never be a mainstream contender. Now, I have seen many of my Republican friends get behind her even (granted I'm at a college campus so the Republicans aren't the Insane Climate denying/Slavery light people).

I think I like many others though that the right wing media would attack her relentlessly and define her essentially. She has not only fought back but also showed the hypocrisy of so many in the conservative establishment. I'm sick and tired of apologetic, moderate DINOs. AOC is definitely part of the Democratic future.

No, this is for Z because only those who support her could be worse.....

 

[37L1]

I have to say as a economically left winger (social moderate), I was worried at first that AOC would be too focused on identity issues.

I'm fully behind her now though, one month ago, I'd have said she could never be a mainstream contender. Now, I have seen many of my Republican friends get behind her even (granted I'm at a college campus so the Republicans aren't the Insane Climate denying/Slavery light people).

I think I like many others though that the right wing media would attack her relentlessly and define her essentially. She has not only fought back but also showed the hypocrisy of so many in the conservative establishment. I'm sick and tired of apologetic, moderate DINOs. AOC is definitely part of the Democratic future.

Get off a college campus, work at least 20 years for a living at a real job and then get back to us.

 

[05_never_again]

What a child

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Ok, I'll defend her on this one (partially). She's pretty clearly asking those questions rhetorically. She knows it is legal to do all that stuff. That's her point.

However, I bet you the point she won't make is that both parties, and probably including some individual Dems in Congress she's aligned herself with, are doing this. She wants to paint a picture that only Republicans and stereotypically Republican-aligned industries do this, which of course is totally false.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Please tell me this is made up...

Nope. But I think you already know with the new green deal thread.

 

[zaqhhh]

OK then. Let's discuss. What should we as Americans do about global warming? Should those of us with actual jobs be taxed more to pay for college for everybody? How about healthcare? Should I be taxed more to pay for that?

First, it needs to be a requirement that it be taught in school. There is no debate over the topic, I'm sick of science being politicized.

Now, one disagreement that I do have with AOC is that I do think nuclear energy is fairly safe and should be a transition source during a massive energy infrastructure investment towards the true renewables.
I also want a carbon tax implemented to fund negative emission technology and other initiatives.

Onto your second and third questions which I can really sum into one. Should Healthcare be Nationalized and therefore paid for according to income tax and progressive or small co-pays? Should college be paid for similarly?

Answers to both are Yes. Now you tried to frame it as "those with jobs." I think we need to start where there is near universal agreement, the rich (over 2 million) can afford to pay a hell of a lot more and most of us (even like half of conservatives). Majorities want even the marginally rich to pay more though a lesser amount (500-2 million).
As someone in graduate school in a healthcare profession with preliminary job offers near 80k. I would be willing and expect others in that class to also pay a small to decent amount in.

Let's remember that Nationalized health care would reduce administrative and third party costs greatly. All Nationalized systems pay less per capita than the US does. The only people who oppose it are older medical professionals who don't want their salaries (who average 25-100% more than the developed world) touched and Reaganites who scream socialism without grasping basic english. In fact, even the AMA is now fighting a coup by younger members at their conventions to endorse a national system. The American Public Health Association has endorsed it since the 1940s.

As far as college goes, I paid for each of my stages through merit scholarships. I will graduate with my masters with 0 debt. I, of all persons should be against free college then right? Wrong. I got very lucky with what opportunities were afforded to me and if I missed a few questions here or there, my scholarships might have been gutted and I may be like a lot of my other colleagues with 40k or more in debt. My parents took the time when I was little to instill education in me, I know a lot of others weren't given that and I am more than willing to promote that all be entitled to that.

Remember that free college also included tech skills that are dearly needed. Too many times I see people complaining about basket weaving or some other anomaly that people point out to try and make a point that it will be wasted which is far and away an extremely exception.

Long winded but hopefully you can find some common ground in that.

 

[Electric Orange]

Ok, I'll defend her on this one (partially). She's pretty clearly asking those questions rhetorically. She knows it is legal to do all that stuff. That's her point.

However, I bet you the point she won't make is that both parties, and probably including some individual Dems in Congress she's aligned herself with, are doing this. She wants to paint a picture that only Republicans and stereotypically Republican-aligned industries do this, which of course is totally false.

She's wasting time

 

[1972 Grad]

First, it needs to be a requirement that it be taught in school. There is no debate over the topic, I'm sick of science being politicized.

Now, one disagreement that I do have with AOC is that I do think nuclear energy is fairly safe and should be a transition source during a massive energy infrastructure investment towards the true renewables.
I also want a carbon tax implemented to fund negative emission technology and other initiatives.

Onto your second and third questions which I can really sum into one. Should Healthcare be Nationalized and therefore paid for according to income tax and progressive or small co-pays? Should college be paid for similarly?

Answers to both are Yes. Now you tried to frame it as "those with jobs." I think we need to start where there is near universal agreement, the rich (over 2 million) can afford to pay a hell of a lot more and most of us (even like half of conservatives). Majorities want even the marginally rich to pay more though a lesser amount (500-2 million).
As someone in graduate school in a healthcare profession with preliminary job offers near 80k. I would be willing and expect others in that class to also pay a small to decent amount in.

Let's remember that Nationalized health care would reduce administrative and third party costs greatly. All Nationalized systems pay less per capita than the US does. The only people who oppose it are older medical professionals who don't want their salaries (who average 25-100% more than the developed world) touched. In fact, even the AMA is now fighting a coup by younger members at their conventions to endorse a national system. The American Public Health Association has endorsed it since the 1940s.

As far as college goes, I paid for each of my stages through merit scholarships. I will graduate with my masters with 0 debt. I, of all persons should be against free college then right? Wrong. I got very lucky with what opportunities were afforded to me and if I missed a few questions here or there, my scholarships might have been gutted and I may be like a lot of my other colleagues with 40k or more in debt. My parents took the time when I was little to instill education in me, I know a lot of others weren't given that and I am more than willing to promote that all be entitled to that.

Remember that free college also included tech skills that are dearly needed. Too many times I see people complaining about basket weaving or some other anomaly that people point out to try and make a point that it will be wasted which is far and away an extremely exception.

Long winded but hopefully you can find some common ground in that.

White privilege, IMO!

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Just when I thought we had seen the limit of all crazy her and the socialists can be she pulls this. Oh and the price tag 4.6 TRILLION

That wouldn't even start to touch it. Tearing down every building in the US and building it back would easily cost that without any of their other BS.

And what state would be gone from Gov domain? You would need a landfill the size of Kansas. Lol

 

[AirVol]

 

[37L1]

First, it needs to be a requirement that it be taught in school. There is no debate over the topic, I'm sick of science being politicized.

Now, one disagreement that I do have with AOC is that I do think nuclear energy is fairly safe and should be a transition source during a massive energy infrastructure investment towards the true renewables.
I also want a carbon tax implemented to fund negative emission technology and other initiatives.

Onto your second and third questions which I can really sum into one. Should Healthcare be Nationalized and therefore paid for according to income tax and progressive or small co-pays? Should college be paid for similarly?

Answers to both are Yes. Now you tried to frame it as "those with jobs." I think we need to start where there is near universal agreement, the rich (over 2 million) can afford to pay a hell of a lot more and most of us (even like half of conservatives). Majorities want even the marginally rich to pay more though a lesser amount (500-2 million).
As someone in graduate school in a healthcare profession with preliminary job offers near 80k. I would be willing and expect others in that class to also pay a small to decent amount in.

Let's remember that Nationalized health care would reduce administrative and third party costs greatly. All Nationalized systems pay less per capita than the US does. The only people who oppose it are older medical professionals who don't want their salaries (who average 25-100% more than the developed world) touched and Reaganites who scream socialism without grasping basic english. In fact, even the AMA is now fighting a coup by younger members at their conventions to endorse a national system. The American Public Health Association has endorsed it since the 1940s.

As far as college goes, I paid for each of my stages through merit scholarships. I will graduate with my masters with 0 debt. I, of all persons should be against free college then right? Wrong. I got very lucky with what opportunities were afforded to me and if I missed a few questions here or there, my scholarships might have been gutted and I may be like a lot of my other colleagues with 40k or more in debt. My parents took the time when I was little to instill education in me, I know a lot of others weren't given that and I am more than willing to promote that all be entitled to that.

Remember that free college also included tech skills that are dearly needed. Too many times I see people complaining about basket weaving or some other anomaly that people point out to try and make a point that it will be wasted which is far and away an extremely exception.

Long winded but hopefully you can find some common ground in that.

Proof that obtaining a degree does not mean you are smart.

 

[Electric Orange]

First, it needs to be a requirement that it be taught in school. There is no debate over the topic, I'm sick of science being politicized.

Now, one disagreement that I do have with AOC is that I do think nuclear energy is fairly safe and should be a transition source during a massive energy infrastructure investment towards the true renewables.
I also want a carbon tax implemented to fund negative emission technology and other initiatives.

Onto your second and third questions which I can really sum into one. Should Healthcare be Nationalized and therefore paid for according to income tax and progressive or small co-pays? Should college be paid for similarly?

Answers to both are Yes. Now you tried to frame it as "those with jobs." I think we need to start where there is near universal agreement, the rich (over 2 million) can afford to pay a hell of a lot more and most of us (even like half of conservatives). Majorities want even the marginally rich to pay more though a lesser amount (500-2 million).
As someone in graduate school in a healthcare profession with preliminary job offers near 80k. I would be willing and expect others in that class to also pay a small to decent amount in.

Let's remember that Nationalized health care would reduce administrative and third party costs greatly. All Nationalized systems pay less per capita than the US does. The only people who oppose it are older medical professionals who don't want their salaries (who average 25-100% more than the developed world) touched and Reaganites who scream socialism without grasping basic english. In fact, even the AMA is now fighting a coup by younger members at their conventions to endorse a national system. The American Public Health Association has endorsed it since the 1940s.

As far as college goes, I paid for each of my stages through merit scholarships. I will graduate with my masters with 0 debt. I, of all persons should be against free college then right? Wrong. I got very lucky with what opportunities were afforded to me and if I missed a few questions here or there, my scholarships might have been gutted and I may be like a lot of my other colleagues with 40k or more in debt. My parents took the time when I was little to instill education in me, I know a lot of others weren't given that and I am more than willing to promote that all be entitled to that.

Remember that free college also included tech skills that are dearly needed. Too many times I see people complaining about basket weaving or some other anomaly that people point out to try and make a point that it will be wasted which is far and away an extremely exception.

Long winded but hopefully you can find some common ground in that.

Okay but what about a transoceanic train system to replace planes?

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

First, it needs to be a requirement that it be taught in school. There is no debate over the topic, I'm sick of science being politicized.

Now, one disagreement that I do have with AOC is that I do think nuclear energy is fairly safe and should be a transition source during a massive energy infrastructure investment towards the true renewables.
I also want a carbon tax implemented to fund negative emission technology and other initiatives.

Onto your second and third questions which I can really sum into one. Should Healthcare be Nationalized and therefore paid for according to income tax and progressive or small co-pays? Should college be paid for similarly?

Answers to both are Yes. Now you tried to frame it as "those with jobs." I think we need to start where there is near universal agreement, the rich (over 2 million) can afford to pay a hell of a lot more and most of us (even like half of conservatives). Majorities want even the marginally rich to pay more though a lesser amount (500-2 million).
As someone in graduate school in a healthcare profession with preliminary job offers near 80k. I would be willing and expect others in that class to also pay a small to decent amount in.

Let's remember that Nationalized health care would reduce administrative and third party costs greatly. All Nationalized systems pay less per capita than the US does. The only people who oppose it are older medical professionals who don't want their salaries (who average 25-100% more than the developed world) touched and Reaganites who scream socialism without grasping basic english. In fact, even the AMA is now fighting a coup by younger members at their conventions to endorse a national system. The American Public Health Association has endorsed it since the 1940s.

As far as college goes, I paid for each of my stages through merit scholarships. I will graduate with my masters with 0 debt. I, of all persons should be against free college then right? Wrong. I got very lucky with what opportunities were afforded to me and if I missed a few questions here or there, my scholarships might have been gutted and I may be like a lot of my other colleagues with 40k or more in debt. My parents took the time when I was little to instill education in me, I know a lot of others weren't given that and I am more than willing to promote that all be entitled to that.

Remember that free college also included tech skills that are dearly needed. Too many times I see people complaining about basket weaving or some other anomaly that people point out to try and make a point that it will be wasted which is far and away an extremely exception.

Long winded but hopefully you can find some common ground in that.

Lol, I'll play.


How do you explain record highs, that are still records today, in the months of December, January, and February back in the late 1800s?

 

[zaqhhh]

Like the attacks on AOC, a bunch of conservatives screaming "What an Idiot" without actually making any points. This is why many of her proposals have 60-70% support.