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Exactly why I haven’t done it and people are saying I’m dumb and it’s easy money.
People are geniuses. I went to the dentist today, and the lady who cleaned my teeth said she has some bitcoin. So does her 16 y o son, and her father. She didn't know why any of them bought it except everyone was saying to buy it. So maybe it will go to $200k or $2,000,000 or -----. It's just a heard mentality, and you might make some money.
So do you really want to be dumb? If you invest $100 today when it gets to $20,000,000 you'll have about $35,000.
 
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Good day to but RKT. Wish I had some more money freed up. Interested to see how far it falls.
 
Probably. I've been making about $300 a week selling calls on what I have, and I've been very concerned about a huge run-up taking it all away and then I wouldn't be making that anymore. So far, I've gotten along fine. I could buy whatever I want back at $21 or $22.
 
RKT still has a gap to fill back to 19.02. Not a bad entry point currently, but I think it's gonna hit as low as $18.50 before rebounding.

Either way, it's a strong company that is currently down more than 55% from 52 week highs.
 
RKT still has a gap to fill back to 19.02. Not a bad entry point currently, but I think it's gonna hit as low as $18.50 before rebounding.

Either way, it's a strong company that is currently down more than 55% from 52 week highs.

Got in at 18.83 this AM.

That 52 week high is a little bit of funny business since it was Reddit driven. However, if stock hits 24.50, that's a 30% gain...
 
Got in at 18.83 this AM.

That 52 week high is a little bit of funny business since it was Reddit driven. However, if stock hits 24.50, that's a 30% gain...

While that's true, it's a really great company. Strong financials. Nice growth potential, especially with the housing market as hot as it is. Seems like a no brainer at these levels.
 
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I was too slow yesterday and wasn’t able to buy RKT around $19. I’ve set the limit at $18.27 today. Trading at about $18.50 right now.
 
18.4

6.5x PE. What’s up with that?

Edit: filled at $18.27
Seems like a good company that’s not carrying a crazy price. Despite the downgrades, it sure seems inexpensive.
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Rocket Stock Slumps After Tiny Earnings Shortfall. It Isn't About the Profit. -- Barrons.com

5/6/21, 12:11 PM
Shaina Mishkin

Rocket Cos. went public at a time when its margins on loan originations were sky-high. Now they are falling back to earth, and investors aren't happy.

Stock in Rocket Cos., the Detroit-based parent of Rocket Mortgage, slumped 17% the morning after it reported first- quarter earnings that missed analysts' expectations by one cent a share. Rocket (ticker: RKT) reported adjusted earnings per share on Wednesday of 89 cents, just below the 90 cents analysts expected, on total net revenue of $4.6 billion.

The company reported a gain-on-sale margin -- the profit it makes when it issues, or originates, a loan -- of 3.74% . That margin was higher than the same quarter in 2020 by 0.49 percentage point, but below last quarter's margin of 4.4% . Wall Street had expected a result of 3.9%, according to FactSet. The volume of completed loan originations was also slightly lower than expected, missing analysts' estimates by 0.3%.

The company expects margins to continue to decline. On a call with investors, the company told investors to expect a second-quarter gain-on-sale margin of between 2.65% and 2.95%, while Wall Street had expected 3.1%.

To be sure, it is no surprise that margins are falling. They went sky-high in 2020 because although the Federal Reserve cut short-term interest rates in response to the pandemic, strong demand for home loans kept mortgage rates from declining as quickly.

That surge was a boon for newly public Rocket Cos. in the second quarter of 2020, when the company reaped gain-on- sale margins of 5.19%. "Second quarter gain-on-sale margins were certainly elevated by historical standards," Farner told investors at the time. "This is exactly the kind of market environment we built our platform to perform in."

In a Thursday research note, a team of J.P. Morgan analysts restated their Underperform rating on Rocket and revised their target for the stock price to $21 from $22.80. "We expect shares to trade lower on guidance that suggests [gain on sale] margins are normalizing more rapidly than previously assumed," they wrote.

The stock was trading at $18.83 Thursday morning, down 17.4%. The S&P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average were both about flat.

Farner addressed the recent decline in gain-on-sale margins on a Wednesday call with investors. "The margins, although moving back to more historical averages, are incredibly strong," Farner said. "But what we think about is not just that margin for the first transaction, what we're thinking about is the lifetime value of every client that we acquire," he added, mentioning additional products like Rocket Auto and Rocket Home. The Rocket platform's client- retention rate is more than 90%, Farner said.

In a Wednesday note, Wedbush analysts Henry Coffey and Brian Violino wrote that Rocket's earnings demonstrate its susceptibility to cycles in the mortgage market. "While there is a lot more going on here at RKT than any other mortgage company we follow in terms of product expansion and franchise enhancing investments, the company's results are still going to be dominated by the more cyclical aspects of mortgage for some time to come," they wrote.

The company saw a spate of downward price-target revisions following the earnings. The mean price target for Rocket shares fell to $22.62 from a recent level of $24.75 according to FactSet.

Write to Shaina Mishkin at shaina.mishkin@dowjones.com


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05-06-21 1211ET
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$DKNG in a free fall. I would like to jump back in, but I'm not sure where the bottom is. If it drops below $40 again though, I might have to go in heavy.

$FUBO also seems very undervalued.
 
DKNG in a free fall. I would like to jump back in, but I'm not sure where the bottom is. If it drops below $40 again though, I might have to go in heavy.

IMO It will go up as football season approaches. I don’t understand the public’s fascination with gambling. They don’t have expensive Las Vegas hotels to maintain.
 
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Bought in at $18.27 on Friday. Closed at $18.09. After hours: $18.03/$18.08. Thinking about doubling my shares if we get close to $17.5 on Monday. Might have to get up early to check out the pre-market.
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The Mortgage Boom Is Fading

5/9/21, 4:11 PM
The housing market is as hot as ever. The mortgage market, though, is losing steam.

Homes are selling at a blistering pace unseen since before the financial crisis, pushing up home values in nearly every U.S. ZIP Code. Yet lenders are preparing for mortgage demand to cool in the coming months, the result of rising interest rates that make refinancing less attractive for a huge chunk of borrowers.

The anticipated decline in mortgage volume is setting off price wars across the industry. That is driving down profit margins and spooking the shareholders of mortgage firms that went public closer to the height of the lending boom.

Rocket Cos., the parent of Quicken Loans, said last week that it expects its gain-on-sale margin, a measure of how much lenders earn when they sell loans, to decline in the second quarter. The profit margin would be the company's narrowest since before the mortgage boom. The forecast drove shares of several nonbank lenders to double-digit losses last week, analysts said.

"The message from all the companies that have reported financials publicly is that competition has increased significantly," said Guy Cecala, chief executive of Inside Mortgage Finance.

Last year was a banner one for the mortgage business. Lenders originated a record $3.83 trillion in home loans in 2020, according to the Mortgage Bankers Association.

Mortgage rates that dipped below 3% for the first time and changes in the ways Americans work and live pushed up demand for both refinancings and purchase loans to levels that strained many lenders. To stem the influx of applications, lenders raised rates. But their own borrowing costs stood still. Profit margins rose sharply.

This year, total originations are expected to fall to $3.3 trillion, a 14.2% decline. Still, at that level, 2021 would rank among the best years on record.

"This year is still expected to be a great year, probably the second-best year in history," said KBW analyst Bose George. "But it's just that directionally, [mortgage volume] is going down."

A drop in refinancing activity is a big reason why. With the 30-year mortgage rate near 2.97%, about 14.5 million Americans could lower their monthly mortgage payments through a refinancing, according to mortgage-data firm Black Knight Inc. That is down from 18.7 million near the start of the year, when mortgage rates reached a record low of 2.65% .

Still, the good news for borrowers is that lenders are now vying for customers by lowering the rates they charge.

That translates into lower profits for lenders. When lenders make mortgages cheaper, the gap between the rate they charge for the loan and how much it costs them to make it shrinks. Loans with smaller gaps are worth less when sold to investors in the secondary market. That reduces the gain-on-sale margin, or the amount lenders earn on each loan they sell.

Competition among lenders in the wholesale mortgage channel, where borrowers secure loans through individual mortgage brokers instead of banks or nonbank mortgage lenders directly, is driving much of the decline in lending margins, analysts said.

Lenders that extend mortgages directly to borrowers are under less pressure. Lenders in the retail channel, as it is known, tend to have higher margins than their wholesale counterparts because they don't share the gains with brokers.

Rocket reported a margin of 3.74% in the first three months of the year, down from 4.41% in the fourth quarter of 2020. It also said it expects the measure to fall to a range between 2.65% and 2.95% in the second quarter.

"We're kind of back to some of the historical longer-term margins that we've experienced, which on our platform are still very profitable," Rocket Chief Executive Jay Farner said during a call with analysts.

Rocket's stock price fell nearly 17% to $19.01 the day after the company's earnings report.

Shares of UWM Holdings Corp. closed at a record low last week after Rocket's earnings. UWM, the country's largest wholesale lender, reports first-quarter results Monday.

Home Point Capital Inc. shares fell close to 18% Thursday after the company said its wholesale-lending business broke even in April. HomePoint acquires most of its loans through wholesale lending.

Write to Orla McCaffrey at orla.mccaffrey@wsj.com


(END) Dow Jones Newswires
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