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Thunder Good-Oil said:
There should be some contrarian plays with China trade and the Corona-virus. Cruise Lines have surely been getting hammered. Maybe other travel and gambling companies as well. Gambling should be taking off with the legalization of gambling by the SCOTUS 1 or 2 years ago.
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Cruise lines have history of dropping 60+ %. A likely scenario right now. The virus, a recession in much of the world and an over supply of cabins.
A possible price of $10-20 in the next month or so.
 
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A great time to buy.

Looking hard at Nvidia - just need to time the buy in.

It will bounce back with growth potential around 20%+
 
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overseasorange2 said:
By then XOM will be into something else.....
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I would expect them to try to buy existing businesses, most likely in the energy field. will they be successful at whatever they choose to do? Some companies diversify well, but many don't. GE

They could shrink the size of the company and pay huge dividends. Most CEOs and boards don't do that.

I just see it as an unknown investment for the long term.

I believe Shell and BP are paying significantly higher dividends. I bought BP after their gulf catastrophe, 2010, and made good money for a while, but have sold each time it has gone up significantly. It's dividend grows now, but I would rather have the price in 2014.
If you look at BP and XOM their stock prices fluctuate together. Since 2010 both had a low in 2010 and high in 2014.
 
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Go aeiou said:
I would expect them to try to buy existing businesses, most likely in the energy field. will they be successful at whatever they choose to do? Some companies diversify well, but many don't. GE

They could shrink the size of the company and pay huge dividends. Most CEOs and boards don't do that.

I just see it as an unknown investment for the long term.

I believe Shell and BP are paying significantly higher dividends. I bought BP after their gulf catastrophe, 2010, and made good money for a while, but have sold each time it has gone up significantly. It's dividend grows now, but I would rather have the price in 2014.
If you look at BP and XOM their stock prices fluctuate together. Since 2010 both had a low in 2010 and high in 2014.
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That's true. But after being in the oil biz for almost 40 years, (worked for 5 majors) the one thing I know is it is extremely cyclic. Have some good friends at XOM, and you would not believe some of the **** they are into.

Anyway, thanks for your input.
 
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XOM will make their money no matter what. If electric vehicles push internal combustion to the scrap heap, they'll makeup for it by selling natty gas to the power plants on the grid.

Also, the ME won't calm down until their wells are dry. Every dust up will be a windfall for XOM. And once China stabilizes oil prices will soar.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
XOM will make their money no matter what. If electric vehicles push internal combustion to the scrap heap, they'll makeup for it by selling natty gas to the power plants on the grid.

Also, the ME won't calm down until their wells are dry. Every dust up will be a windfall for XOM. And once China stabilizes oil prices will soar.
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The ME will explode when the oil dries up. They use state oil money to placate the masses. When that runs out it will go to **** very quickly.
 
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bignewt said:
How is that different than just buying or selling the stock itself?
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An option costs considerably less than the underlying stock. But the price change in actual dollars is similar. A $20 stock could have a related call option that sells for $2. When the stock price goes to $21 the option price could go to $3.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
An option costs considerably less than the underlying stock. But the price change in actual dollars is similar. A $20 stock could have a related call option that sells for $2. When the stock price goes to $21 the option price could go to $3.
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Is this something you can do on etrade?
 
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bignewt said:
Is this something you can do on etrade?
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Yes. But the spreads and commissions can be expensive. The main, basic concept is that options expire at a certain date. Buyers can, and usually do, lose 100% of their investment. Sellers can lose far more than their proceeds... theoretically an unlimited loss if not hedging the bet.

Selling options is riskier, but most options expire worthless which is good for the seller. Selling a covered call (you own the stock) doesn't have unlimited risk. The risk is that you would lose out on potential large increases in the stock value.
 
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