Alright So Which Is It?!

#26
#26
GAVol said:
Of course it is . . . but the learning curve is certainly longer for a guy with no executive experience and less than a full term in the Sentate.
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I'd see Obama being elected as a step up. He might not have had experience, but at least he hasn't had some experience, failed miserably and got elected anyway..
 
#27
#27
OWB said:
Forget about Bush's foreign policy and you tell me how W was qualified to be President. Better yet, give me a list of his accomplishments prior to his arrival at the white house.
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Nice change of subject. Why does questioning Obama's qualifications lead to Bush? Becuase Obama isn't qualified?
 
#28
#28
All Vol! said:
As for his stances on the issues - what am I, Google?
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You'd have to be to find out anything about him. So far he's proven that he can speak passionately and is personable. That's about it.
 
#29
#29
OWB said:
I'd see Obama being elected as a step up. He might not have had experience, but at least he hasn't had some experience, failed miserably and got elected anyway..
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yea, what we need right now is someone with no experience. sounds dandy.
 
#31
#31
allvol123 said:
Experience does matter, it is one of the more important aspects in any profession. Is someone a sure failure without it? No. But it certainly can be of great use. Sounds like you are using his race, etc. to "diss" him.
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I have no clue what you're talking about. Furthermore, I never said experience doesn't matter; the implicit point I was making is that experience in various public offices and government positions - the traditional route - have not proven to be the scale-tipper to success as president. Obama has been in public service from the start; I don't have the time to type up the resume for you; are you another one who wants to know where he stands on the issues? Great! Near the top of your screen is a box for typing in topics you'd like to find information about? It's called a search engine. Yours probably works as well as mine. By the way, if he had more 'experience', would you consider voting for him?
 
#33
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OWB said:
I'd see Obama being elected as a step up. He might not have had experience, but at least he hasn't had some experience, failed miserably and got elected anyway..
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The thing is, we're electing a Chief Executive here; not a class President.
 
#34
#34
I am not asking you people, who apparently support him, to give me all the answers. If you support this guy I would assume you know something about his stances on issues and could give a better answer than he is smart and popular. Is running for homecoming queen or president? To try and say W isn't smart is asinine.
 
#35
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All Vol! said:
By the way, if he had more 'experience', would you consider voting for him?
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The point is that people get all defensive when you point out the obvious - that Obama is the most inexperienced candidate in the field.
 
#39
#39
GAVol said:
The thing is, we're electing a Chief Executive here; not a class President.
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Oh really? So Pedro isn't on the ballot? Again, how much worse could Obama be? W has lowered the bar to the point where the guy who works the desk at the local John Deere store could run and have a good chance.
 
#40
#40
GAVol said:
The point is that people get all defensive when you point out the obvious - that Obama is the most inexperienced candidate in the field.
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some also tend to get defensive when they are reminded his poll numbers are the 2nd highest of all candidates and closing fast?
 
#41
#41
All Vol! said:
Good one, GA. :jpshakehead:
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Well . . . It's true. Obama's grand appeal is that he's good looking, gives a good speech and is personable. Great qualities to be sure, but he seems to get a free pass on the question of whether he could actually govern.
 
#42
#42
allvol123 said:
Your tatooed answer. Nothing about it proves anything about Obama, it just deflects any real questions asked about him.
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I'm not trying to prove anything about Obama. However, I'm quite certain that W is a dolt.
 
#43
#43
All Vol! said:
I have no clue what you're talking about. Furthermore, I never said experience doesn't matter; the implicit point I was making is that experience in various public offices and government positions - the traditional route - have not proven to be the scale-tipper to success as president. Obama has been in public service from the start; I don't have the time to type up the resume for you; are you another one who wants to know where he stands on the issues? Great! Near the top of your screen is a box for typing in topics you'd like to find information about? It's called a search engine. Yours probably works as well as mine. By the way, if he had more 'experience', would you consider voting for him?
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Why would I do that? You seem to support him so it would only make sense that you know about his views, right? So chime in anytime.
 
#44
#44
GAVol said:
Well . . . It's true. Obama's grand appeal is that he's good looking, gives a good speech and is personable. Great qualities to be sure, but he seems to get a free pass on the question of whether he could actually govern.
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We're talking about a country that elected Ronald Reagan here..
 
#45
#45
OWB said:
Oh really? So Pedro isn't on the ballot? Again, how much worse could Obama be? W has lowered the bar to the point where the guy who works the desk at the local John Deere store could run and have a good chance.
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Give me a break. Everyone can agree the Iraq war is a mess but other than that people just want to jump on the bandwagon of bashing him.
 
#46
#46
JZVOL said:
Give me a break. Everyone can agree the Iraq war is a mess but other than that people just want to jump on the bandwagon of bashing him.
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No, I thought he was an idiot way before the war in Iraq.
 
#47
#47
OWB said:
We're talking about a country that elected Ronald Reagan here..
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...true, but remember that Reagan was a 2 term governor of California who had proven his ability to lead. Whether you agree or disagree with his policies, he definitely had a record.

I'm not saying that Obama is incompetent, just that it's amazing watching people get all up in arms when you dare bring up Obama's experience.
 
#48
#48
OWB said:
I'm not trying to prove anything about Obama. However, I'm quite certain that W is a dolt.
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I don't think you needed to post today for anyone to know your opinion on W. We were discussing Obama's qualifications.
 
#50
#50
JZVOL said:
Give me a break. Everyone can agree the Iraq war is a mess but other than that people just want to jump on the bandwagon of bashing him.
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I guess you could give me some reasons as to why I should be thankful that he's been our President. Maybe some examples as to how he's made this country a better to live etc etc etc..
 
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