Amateur Hour Continues

[Septic]

I'll bet some of the kids across the street could remind him that he's supporting teams that are a combined 0-2. Not much hope for improvement since they don't have Vandy or Kentucky on their schedules.

 

[Velo Vol]

You know that map redhats like with all the red counties across the heart of the country. Yeah.

 

[37L1]

You know that map redhats like with all the red counties across the heart of the country. Yeah.

Don't see anything there to eat.

 

[hog88]

You know that map redhats like with all the red counties across the heart of the country. Yeah.

Oh heck we're in trouble now.

 

[1972 Grad]

It isn't something that I would do, but I support his right to do it. Same thing if he had black power symbols.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Funny, hill is a conservative. Making false statements about anyone that sees Trump for what he is is desperation.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Are both not a problem?
Why is this an either/or situation?

it’s ******** regardless of your political affiliation.
It’s almost like there’s no difference in the 2 parties.

 

[volfanhill]

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Yea I am a strange conservative for sure. Small federal government, free trade, and fiscally responsible. I know Trump conservatives don’t care about those things.

 

[Orangeburst]

Yea I am a strange conservative for sure. Small federal government, free trade, and fiscally responsible. I know Trump conservatives don’t care about those things.

Would you care to explain your meaning of "free trade"?

 

[n_huffhines]

Would you care to explain your meaning of "free trade"?

This is where we're at now...

 

[Orangeburst]

This is where we're at now...

Free trade is a one way street in Huff world. Duty free imports of goods and illegal immigrants.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Yea I am a strange conservative for sure. Small federal government, free trade, and fiscally responsible. I know Trump conservatives don’t care about those things.

I don’t think anyone in politics cares about those things outside of lip service

 

[Septic]

Are both not a problem?
Why is this an either/or situation?

it’s ******** regardless of your political affiliation.
It’s almost like there’s no difference in the 2 parties.

almost like there's no difference?

The other side of a turd is just as stinky.

 

[n_huffhines]

Free trade is a one way street in Huff world. Duty free imports of goods and illegal immigrants.

Trump is making trade less free and he's not doing it for the sake of future trade agreements that are better in terms of freedom. You can stop fooling yourself into that BS fantasy. All you have to do is look at the USMCA to see that freer trade is not a goal, let alone the priority.

 

[Orangeburst]

Trump making trade less free and he's not doing it for the sake of future trade agreements that are better in terms of freedom. You can stop fooling yourself into that BS fantasy. All you have to do is look at the USMCA to see that freer trade is not a goal, let alone the priority.

My point is there is and never has been "free trade" reciprocity. The Chinese had high tariffs on US imports before Trump took over and the US had minimal tariffs as well. Trump is using the higher tariffs as a temporary tool to balance the field and address other issues.

 

[Velo Vol]

Trump is making trade less free and he's not doing it for the sake of future trade agreements that are better in terms of freedom. You can stop fooling yourself into that BS fantasy. All you have to do is look at the USMCA to see that freer trade is not a goal, let alone the priority.

MAGA Free Trade = buying from whom the government says you should buy from

 

[Septic]

My point is there is and never has been "free trade" reciprocity. The Chinese had high tariffs on US imports before Trump took over and the US had minimal tariffs as well. Trump is using the higher tariffs as a temporary tool to balance the field and address other issues.

The Chinese know they're temporary, they don't have to wait out the tariffs - just trump.

 

[Orangeburst]

The Chinese know they're temporary, they don't have to wait out the tariffs - just trump.

I can agree with that to a point. If he wins another term it certainly becomes problematic as supply chains are already shifting from my understanding. I believe the Chinese have already stated a goal to be 100% self reliant. If anybody can accomplish such a goal in 5 years it is the Chinese.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

The Chinese know they're temporary, they don't have to wait out the tariffs - just trump.

You think they can wait another 5 years? I don't. But if Trump is defeated, they will win big because the Dimwits are spineless and will cave at the first chest puff from the Chinese. Guess what happens next.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

MAGA Free Trade = buying from whom the government says you should buy from

You must be a graduate of the huff cheap Chinese goods school of trade. American jobs be damned.

 

[FLVOL69]

You think they can wait another 5 years? I don't. But if Trump is defeated, they will win big because the Dimwits are spineless and will cave at the first chest puff from the Chinese. Guess what happens next.

Their economy can’t take 5 more years of tariffs, Trump has already won this.

 

[Velo Vol]

You must be a graduate of the huff cheap Chinese goods school of trade. American jobs be damned.

You can debate the merits, but Trump is a protectionist, not a free trader.

 

[n_huffhines]

My point is there is and never has been "free trade" reciprocity. The Chinese had high tariffs on US imports before Trump took over and the US had minimal tariffs as well. Trump is using the higher tariffs as a temporary tool to balance the field and address other issues.

Cool. When we say we want free trade, we're not saying we expect 100% free trade reciprocity. Nobody on our side will ever offer it, so of course no one else will reciprocate and you can stop pointing the finger at China as if they are the only ones protecting when everybody, including us, does it. And we're warring with tons of countries, not just China.

Free trade reciprocity will never happen and we don't hold anyone to that standard and you shouldn't pretend that what we're holding our breath for that. We'd be happy with "freer" trade and we're unhappy with the diminished freedom that Trump's brought about.

How's that trade deficit looking?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

You can debate the merits, but Trump is a protectionist, not a free trader.

Sometimes you have to tear down a little of the structure to rebuild it correctly. Supposedly, the Chinese are losing businesses to other countries. They can't afford that for very long. I highly doubt they can afford it for 5 years. But since you brought it up.. how do you feel about the ExIm bank?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Their economy can’t take 5 more years of tariffs, Trump has already won this.

Exactly. Their entire system is a fraud. I just hope the American public sees this.. and the Dimwits for what they are and doesn't go potato next November. We can hurt the Chinese and rid our country of the Dimwit cancer at the same time.