Amateur Hour Continues

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newarkvol said:
WHO KNEW? ...Trump is both the liar and the bullsh***er

"The philosopher Harry Frankfurt offers an earthy, useful description of this mode of Trump speech in his essay On ********:
....He is neither on the side of the true nor on the side of the false. His eye is not on the facts at all, as the eyes of the honest man and of the liar are, except insofar as they may be pertinent to his interest in getting away with what he says. He does not care whether the things he says describe reality correctly. He just picks them out, or makes them up, to suit his purpose.

This Article absolutely nails -not only the incessant lies but also the sheer ignorance of this moron.

What Trump Did in Osaka Was Worse Than Lying
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Trump's base doesn't care that he would rather pretend he knows what he's talking about, than to say he doesn't know. They may even believe that if Trump says it, it magically becomes a reality. I believe the reports are true that his cabinet and White House staffers will go along with whatever he says, no matter how ignorant it is, rather than tell him he's wrong.
 
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newarkvol said:
WHO KNEW? ...Trump is both the liar and the bullsh***er

"The philosopher Harry Frankfurt offers an earthy, useful description of this mode of Trump speech in his essay On ********:
....He is neither on the side of the true nor on the side of the false. His eye is not on the facts at all, as the eyes of the honest man and of the liar are, except insofar as they may be pertinent to his interest in getting away with what he says. He does not care whether the things he says describe reality correctly. He just picks them out, or makes them up, to suit his purpose.

This Article absolutely nails -not only the incessant lies but also the sheer ignorance of this moron.

What Trump Did in Osaka Was Worse Than Lying
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Thanks for sharing, that was a well-written article. Sums up Trump's tendencies succinctly.

Those statements from Donald, good grief; "old man rambles and yells at passing cloud."
 
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Stew Cook said:
Trump's base doesn't care that he would rather pretend he knows what he's talking about, than to say he doesn't know. They may even believe that if Trump says it, it magically becomes a reality. I believe the reports are true that his cabinet and White House staffers will go along with whatever he says, no matter how ignorant it is, rather than tell him he's wrong.
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This is what happens when you demand absolute loyalty, not to a set of ideas or beliefs, but to an individual. Trump doesn't demand loyalty to anything other than himself. His hired goons respond in kind.

There is also some truth to the "Trump said it, must be true! Defend the Lord Red Hat!" mentality among his solid base.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
There's several running right now.
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I do like Jesse Ventura in the Green Party. In the DNC, I have never seen a worse group of candidates. When there is anyone declaring Donald Trump the winner of your party's debates, you are in trouble.

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This is what happens when you demand absolute loyalty, not to a set of ideas or beliefs, but to an individual. Trump doesn't demand loyalty to anything other than himself. His hired goons respond in kind.

There is also some truth to the "Trump said it, must be true! Defend the Lord Red Hat!" mentality among his solid base.
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This doesn't happen with anyone else? I am pretty sure Clinton fans called anyone who disagreed misogynists.
 
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Burger said:
I do like Jesse Ventura in the Green Party. In the DNC, I have never seen a worse group of candidates. When there is anyone declaring Donald Trump the winner of your party's debates, you are in trouble.



This doesn't happen with anyone else? I am pretty sure Clinton fans called anyone who disagreed misogynists.
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I didn't know Ventura was running. He should have his name on the ballot read Jesse "The Body" Ventura, that would be awesome.

I've seen some of the "Trump won the debates" stuff, mostly on here, but also among some lefty pundits (Joe Scarborough was particularly critical of the infighting, among some others), as well as the usual deluge of crap from Fox News, Breitbart, etc. I'm not sure why they thought this (other than the Red Hats).

The debates didn't feel any different to me than 2004, 2008, or 2016 among Dems. They've always ate their own, it is what liberals do. And I know it isn't popular thought on the board, but they aren't all raving Commies. There is a wide range of ideological differences among the primary candidates, from center (Delaney) all the way out on the Left with the Bern, with 22 other varying degrees of progressive thought in between.

And not all Clinton fans did that.
 
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On his Asia swing, Trump at one point referred to his adviser as “Mike Bolton,” a mistake he’s made several times before.

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Stew Cook said:
Trump's base doesn't care that he would rather pretend he knows what he's talking about, than to say he doesn't know. They may even believe that if Trump says it, it magically becomes a reality. I believe the reports are true that his cabinet and White House staffers will go along with whatever he says, no matter how ignorant it is, rather than tell him he's wrong.
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Is anything really that different under Trump.
Spending still out of control
Pollution still out of control
Political division continues to grow as it has since Regan.

Isn’t Trump just SSDD
 
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zeppelin128 said:
I didn't know Ventura was running. He should have his name on the ballot read Jesse "The Body" Ventura, that would be awesome.

I've seen some of the "Trump won the debates" stuff, mostly on here, but also among some lefty pundits (Joe Scarborough was particularly critical of the infighting, among some others), as well as the usual deluge of crap from Fox News, Breitbart, etc. I'm not sure why they thought this (other than the Red Hats).

The debates didn't feel any different to me than 2004, 2008, or 2016 among Dems. They've always ate their own, it is what liberals do. And I know it isn't popular thought on the board, but they aren't all raving Commies. There is a wide range of ideological differences among the primary candidates, from center (Delaney) all the way out on the Left with the Bern, with 22 other varying degrees of progressive thought in between.

And not all Clinton fans did that.
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I don't think Hilary Clinton won any RNC debates in 2016. Shoot, when everybody the second night proposed healthcare for illegal immigrants and open borders, that was the moment that Trump won the debate.

This isn't the first DNC debate I watched. The RNC eats their own also. Problem is that the debate was like a sloppy high school student council debate. MSNBC and the debate format were the biggest loser here, but nobody on that stage proved they can lead better than Donald Trump.
 
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Burger said:
I don't think Hilary Clinton won any RNC debates in 2016. Shoot, when everybody the second night proposed healthcare for illegal immigrants and open borders, that was the moment that Trump won the debate.

This isn't the first DNC debate I watched. The RNC eats their own also. Problem is that the debate was like a sloppy high school student council debate. MSNBC and the debate format were the biggest loser here, but nobody on that stage proved they can lead better than Donald Trump.
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I completely disagree on the latter, but I agree on MSNBC. That was amateur hour. CNN is hosting the next round this month. It won't be hard on them to improve. Also, I still think 10 candidates is too many for one debate.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
I completely disagree on the latter, but I agree on MSNBC. That was amateur hour. CNN is hosting the next round this month. It won't be hard on them to improve. Also, I still think 10 candidates is too many for one debate.
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Should be a round robin. If the next debate isn't better, I would be truly worried. I don't see anyone on that stage who'd beat Trump today.

Tulsi Gabbard had the best Debate. :)
 
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