Amateur Hour Continues

[luthervol]

This is where you start driving off into the weeds . “You just said anyone but Trump” . It’s the same thing you condemned Rs for doing “ anyone but Hillary “ now it’s not the same because your perception of Trump is worse than your perception of any other Dem regardless of who they are or what they stand for ?

You're missing the whole point.
It was always known that there was a large anybody but Hillary vote, They would have voted for ANYBODY but Hilary. IT DID NOT NEED TO BE TRUMP. Trump was nominated over 16 other republicans. THAT IS THE POINT.
REPUBLICANS CHOSE TRUMP.

There will be a larger anybody but Trump vote than there was an anybody but Hillary vote.
The key is (AND THIS IS A BIG ONE) the democrats will not nominate a person anywhere near as despicable as TRUMP.

My beef has always been that the repubs nominated such a despicable human - not that there was a large anybody but Hillary vote; that was always a given.

 

[luthervol]

LMFAO!!!!!! Get out of your own delusions, and pretend to be in reality. The real evil people are ones who call others evil or treat others from an ivory tower.



Do we really want to go there?

????????? LOL
Trump calls others evil all the time.
There is no one more elitist than Trump.

 

[TheDeeble]

You're missing the whole point.
It was always known that there was a large anybody but Hillary vote, They would have voted for ANYBODY but Hilary. IT DID NOT NEED TO BE TRUMP. Trump was nominated over 16 other republicans. THAT IS THE POINT.
REPUBLICANS CHOOSE TRUMP.

There will be a larger anybody but Trump vote than there was an anybody but Hillary vote.
The key is (AND THIS IS A BIG ONE) the democrats will not nominate a person anywhere as despicable as TRUMP.

My beef has always been that the repubs nominated such a despicable human - not that there was a large anybody but Hillary vote. That was always a given.

I don't think it was solely an "anybody but Hillary" vote. I think there was just as much "anybody except another typical politician" vote. Trump happened to fit both those requirements.

 

[luthervol]

I don't think it was solely an "anybody but Hillary" vote. I think there was just as much "anybody except another typical politician" vote. Trump happened to fit both those requirements.

I agree. BUT....the republican primary had NOTHING to do with the "anybody but Hillary" factor. All 17 candidates were "anybody but Hillary".
The republicans knowingly and willingly chose Trump from a field of 17 republicans. Some of that was certainly the "anybody but another typical politician" vote. Of course you had a highly respected neurosurgeon that also filled that role.
Bottom line.........repubs chose Trump when there were other non-Hillary and non-typical politicians from whom to choose.
There never has been and never will be getting around that fact. The Trump catastrophe lies squarely on the shoulders of the people who voted for him (especially in the primaries).

 

[Mick]

I agree. BUT....the republican primary had NOTHING to do with the "anybody but Hillary" factor. All 17 candidates were "anybody but Hillary".
The republicans knowingly and willingly chose Trump from a field of 17 republicans. Some of that was certainly the "anybody but another typical politician" vote. Of course you had a highly respected neurosurgeon that also filled that role.
Bottom line.........repubs chose Trump when there were other non-Hillary and non-typical politicians from whom to choose.
There never has been and never will be getting around that fact. The Trump catastrophe lies squarely on the shoulders of the people who voted for him (especially in the primaries).

The Republicans were going to vote Republican but there was a new voting block for the GOP which vaulted Trump to victory in the primaries and General. He was talking to them this weekend via Twitter.

 

[luthervol]

The Republicans were going to vote Republican but there was a new voting block for the GOP which vaulted Trump to victory in the primaries and General. He was talking to them this weekend via Twitter.

The basket of deplorables weighed just enough to tip the scales. Bannon/Stone knew what they were doing.

 

[37L1]

I agree. BUT....the republican primary had NOTHING to do with the "anybody but Hillary" factor. All 17 candidates were "anybody but Hillary".
The republicans knowingly and willingly chose Trump from a field of 17 republicans. Some of that was certainly the "anybody but another typical politician" vote. Of course you had a highly respected neurosurgeon that also filled that role.
Bottom line.........repubs chose Trump when there were other non-Hillary and non-typical politicians from whom to choose.
There never has been and never will be getting around that fact. The Trump catastrophe lies squarely on the shoulders of the people who voted for him (especially in the primaries).

That's a dumb comparision in the light that you have over 20 candidates for the Democrat nomination for President, all 20 of them are anybody but Trump. Let's see who reigns supreme out of that selection of nitwits, whose slogan is "Give it away, give it away, give it away, now."

You need to get over it luther. The country chose/elected Trump over Hillary. The primaries are secondary to that fact.

 

[luthervol]

That's a dumb comparision in the light that you have over 20 candidates for the Democrat nomination for President, all 20 of them are anybody but Trump. Let's see who reigns supreme out of that selection of nitwits, whose slogan is "Give it away, give it away, give it away, now."

You need to get over it luther. The country chose/elected Trump over Hillary. The primaries are secondary to that fact.

If they were secondary they wouldn't be called primaries.
It doesn't matter which of the 20 are nominated as far as comparison to Trump; not a single one of them approaches Trump's horrendously despicable human status.

 

[Mick]

The basket of deplorables weighed just enough to tip the scales. Bannon/Stone knew what they were doing.

People were buying what they were selling, fear and hate.

 

[luthervol]

People were buying what they were selling, fear and hate.

The two most easily manipulated motivators. (Greed runs a close third)
He's still selling and they're still buying.

 

[0nelilreb]

The two most easily manipulated motivators. (Greed runs a close third)
He's still selling and they're still buying.

If that’s truly what you believe , I’d be trying to get the word out to those protesters that
think pulling the American flag down and replacing it with another foreign flag is
helping to pull those votes for the Dems .
Edit : I may have missed it but I haven’t seen Dems saying that’s a bad idea yet in the media .

 

[luthervol]

If that’s truly what you believe , I’d be trying to get the word out to those protesters that think pulling the American flag down and replacing it with another foreign flag is helping to pull those votes for the Dems .

They obviously did more harm than good. Stupid will be stupid.
That's why every right-wing media outlet instantly and continuously covers those types of things.
Feed the hate and the fear. It's the Bannon/Stone mantra and a game Trump thoroughly enjoys playing.

 

[0nelilreb]

They obviously did more harm than good. Stupid will be stupid.
That's why every right-wing media outlet instantly and continuously covers those types of things.
Feed the hate and the fear. It's the Bannon/Stone mantra and a game Trump thoroughly enjoys playing.

This is where I think you are wrong , you talk about what Trump and Brannon does as far as fear and hate but you skip the America first / patriotic angle . ( its a big one that holds a ton a votes ) I know life long Dems that doing stuff like replacing our flag with another doesn’t go over at all with . The reason the right puts that out immediately is because it’s the core rallying point . The left wing media is handcuffed with identity politics and can’t promote the america first angle .

 

[Mick]

This is where I think you are wrong , you talk about what Trump and Brannon does as far as fear and hate but you skip the America first / patriotic angle . ( its a big one that holds a ton a votes ) I know life long Dems that doing stuff like replacing our flag with another doesn’t go over at all with . The reason the right puts that out immediately is because it’s the core rallying point . The left wing media is handcuffed with identity politics and can’t promote the america first angle .

Do you mean Nationalism?

 

[0nelilreb]

Do you mean Nationalism?

Did I say Nationalism ?
Edit : just to be clear nationalism and patriotism are synonymous , the difference being ( now a days ) the left wing media propaganda machine has tried to bastardized nationalism making it somehow a bad thing because it doesn’t fit in with globalization and the EU concept .

 

[luthervol]

This is where I think you are wrong , you talk about what Trump and Brannon does as far as fear and hate but you skip the America first / patriotic angle . ( its a big one that holds a ton a votes ) I know life long Dems that doing stuff like replacing our flag with another doesn’t go over at all with . The reason the right puts that out immediately is because it’s the core rallying point . The left wing media is handcuffed with identity politics and can’t promote the america first angle .

I thought the flag thing was stupid, wrong, and counterproductive.
I consider myself patriotic and America first. (by my definition, not Trump's bastardization)
Cloaking fear and hatred under the veil of America first and patriotism is what I have a problem with.
Trumpism attempts to join the two........If you are America first and patriotic then you must be full of fear and hatred of everything not "traditionally" American. (Trumpism)

 

[0nelilreb]

I thought the flag thing was stupid, wrong, and counterproductive.
I consider myself patriotic and America first.
Cloaking fear and hatred under the veil of America first and patriotism is what I have a problem with.
Trumpism attempts to join the two........If you are America first and patriotic then you must be full of fear and hatred of everything not "traditionally" American.

I don’t understand this point of view , I believe this is where the left wing propaganda machine has done its finest work . I am very patriotic and very america first then everyone else yet I have no fear or hatred toward other things not American . I can dislike them , I can say I don’t believe in them , I can even say nope not here and still not hate or fear them .

 

[1972 Grad]

It's odd that @AM64 liked this post. Does he agree with the proposition that it doesn't matter one bit what a president says?

If I have that right, then it must be perfectly fine for a president to have a ceremony where he gives a meaningless speech and sings the praises of someone's contributions to society, like he Obama for Pat Summit.

However, if he hands that person a symbolic Presidential Freedom medal at the end, now there's something that's terrible and degrading to the presidency.

Makes sense.

I have never uttered the three words "Presidential Freedom medal" until now.

 

[Mick]

Did I say Nationalism ?

In the age of Trumpism, I don't know what America First even means. Seems like all Pro Trump arguments end with a "me" , "I" , "mine".

 

[Velo Vol]

 

[Bigun]

You're missing the whole point.
It was always known that there was a large anybody but Hillary vote, They would have voted for ANYBODY but Hilary. IT DID NOT NEED TO BE TRUMP. Trump was nominated over 16 other republicans. THAT IS THE POINT.
REPUBLICANS CHOSE TRUMP.

There will be a larger anybody but Trump vote than there was an anybody but Hillary vote.
The key is (AND THIS IS A BIG ONE) the democrats will not nominate a person anywhere near as despicable as TRUMP.

My beef has always been that the repubs nominated such a despicable human - not that there was a large anybody but Hillary vote; that was always a given.

Ironic that you hate Trump so much when he acts just like a classic Democrat has always acted. Only difference is that he is a Republican and isnt protected by the press, the media, and insane lefties in general.

Every single Dem candidate with the exception of Williamson is a disgusting piece of trash with a hatred of America that is unrivaled even by our enemies.

 

[1972 Grad]

I don't know about the rest of them, but Trump is a pretty good golfer. Whether or not he is the best in that group, only they know that.

 

[37L1]

If they were secondary they wouldn't be called primaries.
It doesn't matter which of the 20 are nominated as far as comparison to Trump; not a single one of them approaches Trump's horrendously despicable human status.

Perhaps your party might be able to nominate someone that actually wins the nomination instead of having it "fixed" like the last time. You want to talk about despicable. . . and the person who would have won without having the fix wasn't even a member of your own party.

I find that kind of hilarious and it says so much about the quality of your candidates. Will the selection be determined by which one can pander the most? Integrity apparently is a forgotten characteristic in today's political milieu.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

I thought the flag thing was stupid, wrong, and counterproductive.
I consider myself patriotic and America first. (by my definition, not Trump's bastardization)
Cloaking fear and hatred under the veil of America first and patriotism is what I have a problem with.
Trumpism attempts to join the two........If you are America first and patriotic then you must be full of fear and hatred of everything not "traditionally" American. (Trumpism)

Americans want Americans taken care of first. Everyone is tired of illegal this and illegal that. Has nothing to do with Trumpism, but keep on shouting orangemanbad.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

In the age of Trumpism, I don't know what America First even means. Seems like all Pro Trump arguments end with a "me" , "I" , "mine".

Not surprising you don't know what America first means. Let me help you.