America: over/under 50 years until it falls

Over/under 50 years

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#26
#26
Thing is, most of the arguments people make for the "collapse" could be applied to almost all developed countries. Name a nation that is immune?

At least we still have most of the necessary resources and a growing population. A number of nations in Europe + Japan already have aging/declining populations.
 
#27
#27
VolsNSkinsFan said:
We have too many natural resources to completely fail. Plenty of fertile land, water, timber and minerals. We could fall into a somewhat failed state where the police are powerless/corrupt to protect its citizens, and gangs control areas. People would still have jobs and go to work, but your commute would be a cannonball run
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Your scenario sounds like another ****ty Kevin Kostner post-apocalyptic movie.

Either that or you must know a lot about gangs and anarchy.
 
#28
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
We have too many natural resources to completely fail. Plenty of fertile land, water, timber and minerals. We could fall into a somewhat failed state where the police are powerless/corrupt to protect its citizens, and gangs control areas. People would still have jobs and go to work, but your commute would be a cannonball run
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I would rather fall into a state where the police are powerless than remain in the current state where they are totalitarian.
 
#29
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Weezer said:
It won't fall, it just won't be what the founding fathers intended. Hell, it's already halfway there. Government just continues to strip away rights and we let it happen, all because they say it's for our safety. Country could be a lot different if the majority of the citizenry got off their asses and did something, but they won't because they're sheep. Politicians rely on that and we have yet to let them down.
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My 7 year old daughter will inherit a frightening world as an adult.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
Your scenario sounds like another ****ty Kevin Kostner post-apocalyptic movie.

Either that or you must know a lot about gangs and anarchy.
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It's what happened in Argentina in 2000 when they had an economic collapse. There is a blog from some expat who lived there during the time and he covers everything that happened when SHTF. Let me dig around and find it. It's a gradual breakdown with a major event marking the bottom

Edit: Here it is Enjoy!

The Argentina Collapse
 
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#34
#34
7thgroupvolfan said:
I will die with a gun in my hand before that sh!t happens. The OP underestimates the few that will protect her till the death.
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few will become many if we're legitimately threatened. Our pacifism has been ushered in by our lack of true threats and will be ushered out by the advent of some new ones.
 
#37
#37
VolsNSkinsFan said:
We have too many natural resources to completely fail. Plenty of fertile land, water, timber and minerals. We could fall into a somewhat failed state where the police are powerless/corrupt to protect its citizens, and gangs control areas. People would still have jobs and go to work, but your commute would be a cannonball run
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Sounds like fun, sort of like Mad Max.
 
#41
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
It's what happened in Argentina in 2000 when they had an economic collapse. There is a blog from some expat who lived there during the time and he covers everything that happened when SHTF. Let me dig around and find it. It's a gradual breakdown with a major event marking the bottom

Edit: Here it is Enjoy!

The Argentina Collapse
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You're talking about vastly different climates, landscapes, populations and cultures.

Someone made a Rome comparison earlier. I will say yours isn't quite as bad.
 
#42
#42
7thgroupvolfan said:
There will come a time that ALL in this country will be called to arms. I hope "we" have the balls left to answer that calling.
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#43
#43
It seems reasonably plausible that there could be some very real issues with the centralized federal government and some of the states. Exactly how such things will play out is unknown of course but Fed v States is something to keep an eye on. (and no we don't have to go leaping to secession before things of this nature become serious issues)
 
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#44
hndog609 said:
It seems reasonably plausible that there could be some very real issues with the centralized federal government and some of the states. Exactly how such things will play out is unknown of course but Fed v States is something to keep an eye on. (and no we don't have to go leaping to secession before things of this nature become serious issues)
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That's been true at many points over the years. So far so good.
 
#47
#47
hndog609 said:
It seems reasonably plausible that there could be some very real issues with the centralized federal government and some of the states. Exactly how such things will play out is unknown of course but Fed v States is something to keep an eye on. (and no we don't have to go leaping to secession before things of this nature become serious issues)
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What kind of trouble do you foresee?
 
#48
#48
hndog609 said:
Pretty open ended observation and there's a lot not to like about how things are going on that front currently.

As I said...something to keep an eye on.
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Are you kidding?

Brown v. Board.

The looney histrionic attention whoring of Jan Brewer doesn't come close to the tension back then.
 
#49
#49
Gramps said:
Oh really. Where is he going to? :)
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Makati or the Fort.

Business license is in prep right now and we are working with a realtor.

I am hoping to get this done by August though so I can shut down operations before the 4th quarter.
 
#50
#50
Danl said:
What kind of trouble do you foresee?
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Eh, I'm not trying to be overly prescient (or hysterical) here. What I see is a federal government that has become increasingly involved in all manner of things. Some might argue anywhere they can, they do. I'm not under the impression that the Feds are inclined to abstain from seeking whatever control they can get nor cede any once obtained. Are you?

In any event there may just come a tipping point with the state sovereignty issue. Smaller things come up. (just TN examples, there's more elsewhere obviously)

Bill Summary

http://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/106/Chapter/PC0435.pdf

This is just the smoke, not the fire. Do we just smolder along? Perhaps, but then again there may come a point where somebody at the state level simply says "No. We will not comply." That might actually set a good precedent and get some more sand the 10th amend. Beyond that? Hell if I know.

Oh, and LG. I'm talking more across the board issues with federal vs state powers than scholastic integration.
 
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