An Amicable Divorce?

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Is it time or at what point do you think it would be time for Progressives and Conservatives to part company and split the US into at least two countries?

I have to admit that the Russian politician's comment from a few months ago concerning the US splitting into 6 smaller countries had some appeal to me.

I really don't want my way foisted on progressives. I want theirs foisted onto me even less. Why not split peacefully before it happens violently following our collapse under exploding debt?
 
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Make sure you have access to voter registration......... kill as many democrats as you can!
 
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Actually I was just thinking about Abraham and Lot. When it came to a point where they disagreed on everything, they just went in different directions.

It may end up being the only way any part of the country survives. The left seems intent on following the failed model of Europe's democratic socialists.

I strongly suspect the left would have to mature economically and come to the realization that you can't smother wealth creation then share it too.
 
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Sounds like something Serbia and Montenegro would do. Surely we can tolerate disagreement, right?
 
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Can't tolerate people who hate/despise/loath freedom........

Only thing you can do is kill them!
 
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tvolsfan said:
Sounds like something Serbia and Montenegro would do. Surely we can tolerate disagreement, right?
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It isn't just disagreement. It is diametrically opposite, mutually exclusive points of view. I suspect progressive ideals would lead this country into a Greece like meltdown... but it might work I suppose. The free enterprise plus rights and liberties model that the US Constitution established is a prove winner.... but maybe it wouldn't work in the modern world.

What we all should agree on is that the attempt to blend the two is incoherent and unsustainable. Either gov't should become a nanny state enslaving the populace through 70% plus tax rates or we go the other direction where people have rights and freedom along with responsibility... knowing that some people will fail and even get hurt. In trying to do both, we are attempting to have low taxes and untethered gov't spending/goodies.

De Toqueville predicted that America would only survive until our politicians discovered that they could bribe the people with their own money... We're there. Some of us see it. Some of us don't... and that should be the dividing line.

IMO, you cannot take the risk out of life and remain free or prosperous. A slave whether to an individual or the state has the most "security" and the least "worries"... but is that what we want to be?
 
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I know you are being facetious but I fear for my children and grandchildren that it could come to bloodshed. Just look at Europe now that the nanny state is having to say no. They're having riots and violence.

Then... compare that to the LA riots over the years. Folks here will riot and even kill over much less than having their retirement age changed.
 
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I am not joking in any manner............... freedom is every thing..............

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sjt18 said:
I know you are being facetious but I fear for my children and grandchildren that it could come to bloodshed. Just look at Europe now that the nanny state is having to say no. They're having riots and violence.

Then... compare that to the LA riots over the years. Folks here will riot and even kill over much less than having their retirement age changed.
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that's where I think it will happen ... we will have to say no or go down financially ...
 
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Yep. Far right again threatening to secede. How'd that work out last time?

Get over yourselves.
 
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Beat me to it LG. Is the capitol going to be in Richmond again? Dooley really needs to do something to distract everyone.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Yep. Far right again threatening to secede. How'd that work out last time?

Get over yourselves.
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Who in the world said we would go about it the same way.

We have to be in position to get voting registrations and then we will simply start killing you.
 
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Not sure of why your asking why. As for Richmond, play on the last succession attempt and Dooley, well he seems to get blamed for most everything else.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Yep. Far right again threatening to secede. How'd that work out last time?

Get over yourselves.
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No. Just a topic for debate.

How did it work out last time? Many people died. Blacks got a measure of freedom. Americans generally lost rights and freedoms that we previously had and held sacred.

Get over ourselves? As long as we're footing the bill for the absolute NON-SENSE you leftists promote... you have no business telling us to "get over ourselves".

That was my basic point. If leftists really want the things they are promoting (at someone else's expense) then they should pay for it themselves.

If a division happened... either leftists would petition for re-union or would collapse as a society. The impact the left has had on America in the last 100 years has already left us at the brink.

Until you start actually producing the wealth that is getting redistributed or living by the standards you are demanding for everyone else.... Get over YOURself.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Yep. Far right again threatening to secede. How'd that work out last time?

Get over yourselves.
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Much better question... Yep, the MAINSTEAM liberals want to take us the way of Greece or California... and some of the rest of us are wondering when it will be time to cut the cord and let you destroy just yourselves rather than all of us.
 
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Although the ratio of conservatives to statists varies from state to state, they are co-mingled all over the country. I don't see much likelihood for a bloodless separation. In my opinion, any split would only occur following a period of uproar, chaos and blood letting. Mankind is not usually given to peaceful parting of the ways where country, family and property is concerned.

For my grandchildren's sakes I hope I'm wrong and that the trend toward socialism can be turned back at the polls.

Remember all of the liberal angst and screeching when W got re-elected? I suspect that will pale in comparison to their reaction when voters deny their dear leader his rightful second term. The race baiters will not miss their opportunity to stir up violence. The only question will be whether Americans are able to resist the manipulation.
 
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LG, a lady just called your office and she fell at __________________ corporation. She swears she didn't see the wet floor sign in front of the water/ice machine!

Go get em!
 
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J-P, there was a short lived rumble about having conservatives move to conservative states then challenge with succession again a while back. It could happen as a gradual Exodus.

In spite of LG's bluster, I don't think the left has the stomach or commitment to take on those willing to fight for rights and freedoms.



LG, if it helps you at all... If I could choose a man to lead and shape a constitutional convention... a modern day Jefferson or Madison... It would be Thomas Sowell.
 
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