Anarchy In Portland

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#551
hog88 said:
Why? Additional police presence is now a justification for violence and property destruction?
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What? I haven't said anything about justification. Just that things escalated following the Fed arrival.

People can argue of where the blame rests, but I don't think my observation is out of touch.
 
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Stew Cook said:
What? I haven't said anything about justification. Just that things escalated following the Fed arrival.

People can argue of where the blame rests, but I don't think my observation is out of touch.
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Did it really escalate?
 
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#556
Carl Pickens said:
I swear..... I think the feds should remove the fence.... let the place get destroyed... refuse to rebuild.... and tell the City of Portland to go F themselves. Let them drive to California for any federal court issues
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The fence will be removed, and either things go to hell, as many predict, or things will move the other way.

Arguing over predictions seems pointless. I'd be surprised if they leave, actually, before somebody with, who knows what motive, stirs it back up.
 
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#557
  • Downtown Portland has seen over 50 straight nights of criminal violence perpetrated by anarchists targeting city and federal properties and those that inhabit them. On July 3rd, before the surge of DHS law enforcement officers to Portland, Mayor Wheeler said the violence had “been going on for more than a month now” and called for the “nightly violence” to end.
  • The Portland Police Department has declared a riot on numerous occasions because of the nightly violence, which occurred well before the federal presence increased in early July.
 
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Stew Cook said:
Your opinion doesn't amount to sht without facts.. if I'm wrong, do the work. If you have the mental capacity.

The Feds showing up was purely Trumps "Law and Order" campaign looking for a place to escalate.

Prove me wrong.
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Suppose a group of people were trying to light your house on fire and you went outside to confront them. Would I blame you if their friends came over and set your house on fire?

No, I wouldn’t. By your logic, you would be beating yourself up for causing the fire at your house. This is moron thinking. Prove me wrong.
 
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DC_Vol said:
Suppose a group of people were trying to light your house on fire and you went outside to confront them. Would I blame you if their friends came over and set your house on fire?

No, I wouldn’t. By your logic, you would be beating yourself up for causing the fire at your house. This is moron thinking. Prove me wrong.
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I'll see if I can, or even want to, a little later.
 
#564
#564
Stew Cook said:
So they got there just in time after 40 days?

Maybe, but their presence made things escalate by many orders of magnitude.
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Which is why I said "better" depends on your definition.

There will be less violence, but more destruction. Kinda a wash in my books.

From the side that is anti Confederacy to a fault, this lack of support to the federal government is a bit strange.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
I swear..... I think the feds should remove the fence.... let the place get destroyed... refuse to rebuild.... and tell the City of Portland to go F themselves. Let them drive to California for any federal court issues
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Relieve those federal judges of their responsibilities, reassign all those cases to Wyoming...see how they begin to like those rulings.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
3 words: Let. It. Burn.
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Even if the feds leave,, somehow, the left will find a way to continue blaming the Trump administration while refusing to rest any of the responsibility at the feet of the those causing the violence and destruction.
 
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Stew Cook said:
The fence will be removed, and either things go to hell, as many predict, or things will move the other way.

Arguing over predictions seems pointless. I'd be surprised if they leave, actually, before somebody with, who knows what motive, stirs it back up.
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If the fence goes ...... you better believe the courthouse does too.
 
#572
#572
luthervol said:
Hard to fear monger with a wall of moms.?!
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That’s one way to look at it . Little Ps hiding behind “ moms” to keep from being retaliated against as they try to destroy the federal building is another . Shocker I know but I’m in the second grouping and would tell my mother she should be anywhere around possible danger like that . Different strokes for different folks .
 
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