Anarchy In Portland

Can you guys read? I didn't say it was all Trump's fault.

I even prefaced my comment with saying I would be as clear as I could.
Once again.....
The national tone set by Trumpism is a significant contributing factor.
Your party/side sucks balls. Period. Yeah it's tough to admit you're wrong , especially when you've believed in something your entire life.
 
Watching the slowed down video, a cloud of something (either smoke or mace) first emanates from the victim. Then there's the shot. This lead me to believe something was discharged first by the victim.

Maybe so. Also, the shooter more than likely had his firearm in hand, but concealed. Then the shouts directing other ANTIFA members to his location since they had "found one". His intention was to murder, regardless of being maced.
 
It's pretty funny.
He is now going to campaign on the claim that only he can restore the law and order that was lost during his first term.
Red hats will buy it.

Send in the military and leave them laying in the streets. If you wanna play thug life and burn down property, beat and murder innocent people then you have to pay for your actions. Place an 8 pm curfew in these violent democrat ran cities and anyone on the streets at 8:01 deserves what they receive.
 
It's not Trump fault. It sure as hell is the fault of his supporters. 90 days of protests in Portland. No killings. The yokels decide to go into the Portland from the countryside in their manhood-compensating monster trucks, mace antifa, and shoot them with paint pellets and only then do things get ratcheted up a notch, with a Trumper getting killed when he tried to mace the wrong guy.

You want to rethink that ? I guess you could watch the interviews of those dead kids fathers from CHAZ , to help refresh your memory.
 
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So do you agree the victim fired mace first? If so, my question about Rittenhouse stands: he had a bag thrown at him and was then chased by an unarmed man that he shot and killed. Conceptually, if what Rittenhouse did was self defense, why isn't shooting someone who fires mace at you?

It was the bag with Rittenhouse , read the eyewitness statements . He was chased into a corner then the guy tried to take his firearm
 
Maybe so. Also, the shooter more than likely had his firearm in hand, but concealed. Then the shouts directing other ANTIFA members to his location since they had "found one". His intention was to murder, regardless of being maced.
How do we know who said "found one"?
 
How do we know who said "found one"?

From multiple videos, you can hear it in the audio. Some versions are more distinct than others. Considering that the victim appeared to be alone among a group of ANTIFA members, my bet is those words were spoken by the shooter as he approached his victim.
 
From multiple videos, you can hear it in the audio. Some versions are more distinct than others. Considering that the victim appeared to be alone among a group of ANTIFA members, my bet is those words were spoken by the shooter as he approached his victim.

Why would a maganista that arrived in the caravan be out on the street with antifa roaming everywhere? I think it's more likely that the trumpers thought they would drive around, locate some isolated antifa, jump out of the truck, and then pepper spray them and run. It looks like the SUV/truck carrying the victim pulled up after the shooting.

Two things I see in the video: (1) the shooter walks across the street, but not towards the Trumper, and (2) the Trumper walks towards the shooter and fires his mace first. That, to me, suggests the Trumper was the aggressor. Are those actions consistent with the antifa guy being the aggressor?
 

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