Ancient Aliens

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Thrasher865 said:
Ancient projects like the Great Pyramids are amazing, but we would make short work of those with modern technology.
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On the show "Life After Humans" it predicts that some of the longest lasting pieces of civilization will be the Pyramids and Mount Rushmore.
 
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I have a hard time believing Mount Rushmore with facial details would last longer than some other structures.
 
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Burhead said:
Even if an alien civilization is a few thousand years more advanced than ours they probably could move about without being noticed with ease.
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You don't think they would leave any waste/trash behind? And if they were so involved in the business of human kind, pretending to be Gods and all, why did they leave? If they didn't, why did they stop pretending to be Gods?
 
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rjd970 said:
On the show "Life After Humans" it predicts that some of the longest lasting pieces of civilization will be the Pyramids and Mount Rushmore.
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Has nothing to do with how great they are as engineering feats.. Has more to do with the fact that we have evolved past building things out of solid rock.
 
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Thrasher865 said:
You misinterpreted my post. I meant we have some pretty spectacular engineering achievements that future societies could easily exaggerate and say the same thing about.

Ancient projects like the Great Pyramids are amazing, but we would make short work of those with modern technology.
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How so? Even with today's technology it would have to be similar to ancient methods. It's hard to move 100 ton rocks, especially up high. There are no cranes that can lift one of those stones. The only thing I can see being different is replacing whips and slaves with some type of machinery. It would be a slow process, especially to get it precise and out of perfectly cut stone.
 
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I watch the show and all i got out of it was, if,if,if,if,if,if, and if. Why did we stop using all these great techologies that the aliens gave to us to cut and or lift big bolders? I must have missed the episode why we quit using these technologies.
 
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Manvol said:
I watch the show and all i got out of it was, if,if,if,if,if,if, and if. Why did we stop using all these great techologies that the aliens gave to us to cut and or lift big bolders? I must have missed the episode why we quit using these technologies.
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Perhaps we weren't given the choice to continue to use them.
 
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I suppose the thing that makes people ask all of these questions in the first place is that the historical timeline just doesn't make much sense. Man walks out of the stone age and almost immediately starts building enormous temples and structures, many of which we would be hard-pressed to duplicate today. How? Why? There are just no good answers. I don't know that I believe aliens are the reason, but it definitely appears to me that there is much we don't know about our ancient past. The mainstream explanations just don't fly in my book.
 
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jamesd1628 said:
I suppose the thing that makes people ask all of these questions in the first place is that the historical timeline just doesn't make much sense. Man walks out of the stone age and almost immediately starts building enormous temples and structures, many of which we would be hard-pressed to duplicate today. How? Why? There are just no good answers. I don't know that I believe aliens are the reason, but it definitely appears to me that there is much we don't know about our ancient past. The mainstream explanations just don't fly in my book.
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there are numerous examples of unsuccessful pyramid design in Egypt, don't pretend like the Great Pyramid of Cheops and the Sphynx were the first things built after man first learned to walk upright
 
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MG1968 said:
there are numerous examples of unsuccessful pyramid design in Egypt, don't pretend like the Great Pyramid of Cheops and the Sphynx were the first things built after man first learned to walk upright
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I'm sure there are some unsuccessful ones, but I don't see how that detracts from the amazing feat of succesfully building any of them. And I'm not talking about just pyramids in Egypt. There are some pretty amazing ancient religious temples that pre-date Egypt by thousands of years.
 
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MG1968 said:
there are numerous examples of unsuccessful pyramid design in Egypt, don't pretend like the Great Pyramid of Cheops and the Sphynx were the first things built after man first learned to walk upright
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What about Puma Punku? Any explanations on that?
 
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knucklehead_vol said:
So says the poster with a gorilla as an avatar.
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knucklehead_vol said:
What about Puma Punku? Any explanations on that?
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the gorilla was brought back by popular demand

impressive, but I doubt it's the work of ancient aliens

why does it seem like I'm the only one here who appreciates the ingenuity of man and who doesn't seek to dumb civilization down to the point where we're incapable of figuring things out for ourselves?
 
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MG1968 said:
the gorilla was brought back by popular demand

impressive, but I doubt it's the work of ancient aliens

why does it seem like I'm the only one here who appreciates the ingenuity of man and who doesn't seek to dumb civilization down to the point where we're incapable of figuring things out for ourselves?
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Your not. Man is the universe's smartest creature. It kinda creeps me out with all the alien talk
 
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MG1968 said:
why does it seem like I'm the only one here who appreciates the ingenuity of man and who doesn't seek to dumb civilization down to the point where we're incapable of figuring things out for ourselves?
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I'm right there with you. To give aliens credit is incredibly silly. Man has achieved a lot.

MSUDuo said:
Your not. Man is the universe's smartest creature. It kinda creeps me out with all the alien talk
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You cannot say that man is the smartest creature in the universe. You simply cannot say that. Show me a universe wide biological survey that identifies every species of lifeform.
 
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thehardknoxlife said:
How so? Even with today's technology it would have to be similar to ancient methods. It's hard to move 100 ton rocks, especially up high. There are no cranes that can lift one of those stones. The only thing I can see being different is replacing whips and slaves with some type of machinery. It would be a slow process, especially to get it precise and out of perfectly cut stone.
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Wow. You really underestimate modern technology.

The Strongest Crane in the World Works Out With Oil Rigs
 
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I always liked how the Sumarians said we got here,it has the Alien connection to.
 
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Thrasher865 said:
Wow. You really underestimate modern technology.

The Strongest Crane in the World Works Out With Oil Rigs
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No I'm not. That's a bridge crane. It's only capable of lifting objects 10's of feet in one direction. Good luck finding one that's over 500ft tall and can move from side to side. The world record for it is roughly 20k tons up and down. A granite stone on a pyramid can be well over 100 tons. There is not a mobile crane (the kind used for constructing buildings) in the world that can lift one. The biggest mobile crane can lift 30-50 tons, and only up to 300 ft. It alone takes a few years to construct. I can only image how long a 500ft+ bridge crane would take to build, one that moves in different directions of course. There is only one way to move objects of that weight, the same way they did in ancient times. Leverage, inclines, and force.
 
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MG1968 said:
the gorilla was brought back by popular demand

impressive, but I doubt it's the work of ancient aliens

why does it seem like I'm the only one here who appreciates the ingenuity of man and who doesn't seek to dumb civilization down to the point where we're incapable of figuring things out for ourselves?
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thehardknoxlife said:
No I'm not. That's a bridge crane. It's only capable of lifting objects 10's of feet. Good luck finding one that's over 500ft tall. The world record is roughly 20k tons. A granite stone on a pyramid can be well over 100 tons. There is not a crane in the world that can lift one. There is only one way to move objects of that weight, the same way they did in ancient times. Leverage, inclines, and force.
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1) It is 30 stories tall, and we could construct one larger if there were a need.
2) I don't see how you're not understanding that 20,000 tons > 100 tons.... It's baffling me.
3) Good day.
 
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Thrasher865 said:
1) It is 30 stories tall, and we could construct one larger if there were a need.
2) I don't see how you're not understanding that 20,000 tons > 100 tons.... It's baffling me.
3) Good day.
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I do believe that we have cranes today that could lift the stones used to build the pyramids, but I think you're missing a couple of points:

- It would still be an enormous project, even with those cranes, to construct one of the pyramids today. The cranes would probably help, but they would not render the job an easy one.

- How long have we had cranes capable of lifting that much weight? A couple of decades maybe? Maybe a little longer? Maybe not even that long, I don't really know. But I do know that the pyramids were built thousands of years ago. It's taken us thousands of years to get to a point where we have equipment that could even lift such a stone, and it would still be a very difficult process to do what they did thousands of years ago.

There just doesn't seem to be a good answer for how they did what they did, with such huge weights, and with such amazing precission. The fact that we have some big modern cranes doesn't change that at all.
 
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jamesd1628 said:
There just doesn't seem to be a good answer for how they did what they did, with such huge weights, and with such amazing precission. The fact that we have some big modern cranes doesn't change that at all.
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Are you just taking my posts now and applying them to a completely separate argument, with completely separate points?

Did my post address you?

Your alien theory is ridiculous, but that's not what my post was intending to address.
 
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Thrasher865 said:
1) It is 30 stories tall, and we could construct one larger if there were a need.
2) I don't see how you're not understanding that 20,000 tons > 100 tons.... It's baffling me.
3) Good day.
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I do understand that, but I wasn't clear. I edited my post to be more understanding. I believe we can construct a pyramid, but my original point was that it wouldn't be much faster and would have to be done in a similar way as they did a long time ago. Sure you could probably build a bridge crane (one that moves side to side) and whatever else needed for cutting the rock in 5-10 years. Then spend another 10-15years constructing/designing the thing. You'd be pushing 20years. I don't think it would be that much faster. Just less labor intensive. We'd hardly make "short work" of it.
 
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I don't think it would take 20 years as you say....

You guys are exaggerating. So we can build a tower about a kilometer high in maybe 5 years, but it takes 20 years to pile up a bunch of rocks?
 
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Thrasher865 said:
Are you just taking my posts now and applying them to a completely separate argument, with completely separate points?

Did my post address you?

Your alien theory is ridiculous, but that's not what my post was intending to address.
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Well I suppose I made the giant leap of interpreting your comments in the larger context of the overall thread. Lighten up, Francis.
 
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