Andrew Luck is staying at Stanford

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This is only a stupid move if you're worried about the money. Luck never has and never will have to worry about a dollar in his life, regardless of what happens next year.

I wouldn't do it either, but I don't know what not having to think about money feels like.
 
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vol66 said:
When the commish of the NFL feels it necessary to communicate to NFL fans that a deal CAN be made, it's a red flag. When the NFLPA reads his statement and says something to the effect of, "we are not even close", that's a red flag. When the consensus #1 pick takes 48 hours and says he's staying put, that's a red flag. What if there's no NFL football next year?
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lockout isn't necessarily predicted to last all season; some scenarios have said just 4-6 weeks (though either way could happen)

but yeah, when your commissioner says that a deal "can be in place by spring: "if both sides work together"....not the most comforting


if there's no season though, there's just no season unfortunately
 
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TrueOrange said:
lockout isn't necessarily predicted to last all season; some scenarios have said just 4-6 weeks (though either way could happen)

but yeah, when your commissioner says that a deal "can be in place by spring: "if both sides work together"....not the most comforting


if there's no season though, there's just no season unfortunately
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Here's what sucks for the guys who want to come out. They have to declare by Jan 25th(I think, or sooner). The deadline for the CBA is March 1st, with the draft slated for late april. If the worse case scenario happens, these juniors(in Luck's case, sophomore) would have come out for nothing, and lost their college eligibility, so there's no going back.

There are other issues too, but I'll let Nick Saban handle those...

Nick Saban to juniors: Mull labor talks for draft call - ESPN

Then there is this from the Carolina owner...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...er-paints-bleak-picture-of-labor-negotiations
 
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Mr. U said:
Andrew Luck is a student first and then a football player. Its a smart kid. Terrellle Pryor is a dumbass first, athlete second and student 3rd. I can understand why Luck is staying.
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Bwahaha. Quality. However, I agree that if he was poor his azz would be hittin the draft like chong on a bong.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Yeah, I'm sure the fact his family is loaded has nothing to do with it. He would have done the same if they were living in Cabrini Green.
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I never said it didn't. Just said I like seeing guys who aren't in it just for the money. I still like to tell myself these guys enjoy being in college and playing for their soon to be alma mater.
 
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vol66 said:
Here's what sucks for the guys who want to come out. They have to declare by Jan 25th(I think, or sooner). The deadline for the CBA is March 1st, with the draft slated for late april. If the worse case scenario happens, these juniors(in Luck's case, sophomore) would have come out for nothing, and lost their college eligibility, so there's no going back.

There are other issues too, but I'll let Nick Saban handle those...

Nick Saban to juniors: Mull labor talks for draft call - ESPN

Then there is this from the Carolina owner...

NFL.com news: Panthers owner paints bleak picture of labor negotiations
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even if there his a lockout, here's what ESPN's AFC chat today said:

Rick (Houston)


Will there still be a draft with a lockout?
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Paul Kuharsky (3:30 PM)


Yes, it's the last thing that will happen under the current agreement.
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so a draft still happens. From what I understand, it is the last thing teams can do to add players prior to a lockout (no CBA in place means that there can be no free agency nor any franchise to franchise trading of players).

I'm unsure though whether they are still able to put drafted players under contract without a CBA in place, or if instead they simply hold the player's rights until a new CBA is agreed upon
 
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TrueOrange said:
even if there his a lockout, here's what ESPN's AFC chat today said:




so a draft still happens. From what I understand, it is the last thing teams can do to add players prior to a lockout (no CBA in place means that there can be no free agency nor any franchise to franchise trading of players).

I'm unsure though whether they are still able to put drafted players under contract without a CBA in place, or if instead they simply hold the player's rights until a new CBA is agreed upon
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My limited understanding is that they can not sign a player without a new CBA.In other words, there will be a draft, from which the players can't go back and there is no monetary base to work from at this point.
 
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I didn't do a very good job explaining in the previous post. The NFL veteran players want to limit what rookies can be paid. The owners also think that rookie salaries are out of hand. What the baseline should look like is unknown.
 
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zach0105 said:
I never said it didn't. Just said I like seeing guys who aren't in it just for the money. I still like to tell myself these guys enjoy being in college and playing for their soon to be alma mater.
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There's a lot of kids that aren't just in it for the money, but for whom the money is so overwhelming and lifechanging that it becomes insanity not to take the money when it's out there. Only the few kids who come from money get to make the choice on its own merits. If you gave Eric Berry Luck's situation, he would have come back for his senior year, and if you gave Luck Berry's, he would have entered the draft. Money is freedom.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
There's a lot of kids that aren't just in it for the money, but for whom the money is so overwhelming and lifechanging that it becomes insanity not to take the money when it's out there. Only the few kids who come from money get to make the choice on its own merits. If you gave Eric Berry Luck's situation, he would have come back for his senior year, and if you gave Luck Berry's, he would have entered the draft. Money is freedom.
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Very true.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
There's a lot of kids that aren't just in it for the money, but for whom the money is so overwhelming and lifechanging that it becomes insanity not to take the money when it's out there. Only the few kids who come from money get to make the choice on its own merits. If you gave Eric Berry Luck's situation, he would have come back for his senior year, and if you gave Luck Berry's, he would have entered the draft. Money is freedom.
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But the QB position is the one position where no one ever performes well coming out after 3 years. All the greats of today including Brady,Brees, Mannings,Favre, Roethlisberger were in school 4 years. You can tell these guys are more interested in a fooball career than the money. Not that they don't want the money, but they don't let change their life.
 
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vol66 said:
I didn't do a very good job explaining in the previous post. The NFL veteran players want to limit what rookies can be paid. The owners also think that rookie salaries are out of hand. What the baseline should look like is unknown.
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yeah, it's probably something they both nearly agree on. Not near the biggest point keeping talks stalled though
 
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TrueOrange said:
yeah, it's probably something they both nearly agree on. Not near the biggest point keeping talks stalled though
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No, that's about all they agree on. Revenue sharing,retired players, an 18 game schedule and how that effects training camp are all much bigger issues I guess.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
There's a lot of kids that aren't just in it for the money, but for whom the money is so overwhelming and lifechanging that it becomes insanity not to take the money when it's out there. Only the few kids who come from money get to make the choice on its own merits. If you gave Eric Berry Luck's situation, he would have come back for his senior year, and if you gave Luck Berry's, he would have entered the draft. Money is freedom.
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Spot on.
 
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