Another bad apple (George Floyd case)

[Rickyvol77]

George Floyd's family hire their own pathologist after official autopsy finds he died of 'police restraint combined with heart disease and potential intoxicants in his system' and not asphyxiation or strangulation by officer

The family of George Floyd has hired their own pathologist for a separate autopsy after the official results claimed he did not die of strangulation or asphyxiation.

The preliminary results of the county’s autopsy instead concluded Floyd, 46, died from a combination of heart disease and 'potential intoxicants in his system' that were exacerbated by the restraint placed on him by police officers.

Floyd's family revealed Friday they have now hired the services of renowned forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden to conduct a second, independent autopsy.

They claim the underlying health conditions cited in the official report are ‘an illusion’.
'Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease,' said the complaint from the Hennepin County Attorney.

'The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death.'

George Floyd death: Family say autopsy results are an 'illusion' | Daily Mail Online

Now medical examiner science is racist

 

[Rickyvol77]

They're both idiots but words can have different meanings from different people

Lmao

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Nobody is arguing there aren’t plenty of worthless people of all races to go around.

That isn't what I'm saying.

I'm asking you to really look at why this appears to be such a unifying reaction. The people, such as yourself, that continue to be tone deaf are going to be on the wrong side of history. If you don't see that this country is in bad need of a judicial overhaul, then you are delusional and you will probably be one of the people standing in the way of real justice.

People like Hillary Clinton, these aggressive cops, counterfeiters and white collar criminals don't see the same level of punishment as the lower and middle class citizen. It really doesn't matter what color you are, it matters if you are plugged in to the network or the cabal. Politicians, banksters, law enforcement officers, military industrial complex, big business have all had their hand in destroying the lower classes and middle class of this country.

 

[VolStrom]

Now medical examiner science is racist

Would it be okay if I held my knee against your neck until you died? After the autopsy your family could say you were on drugs is the reason you died. Sounds reasonable to me, does it you?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

In the use of the word thugs I think it does. Trump says it and it’s racist.... Obama says it and they’re just thugs

A lot of times, it isn't as much about the word as it is the context that it is being used. Thugs is quite often being used as a euphemism for something else. Lets not sugarcoat it.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Would it be okay if I held my knee against your neck until you died? After the autopsy your family could say you were on drugs is the reason you died. Sounds reasonable to me, does it you?

What does that have to do with what I posted. Do you disagree with the medical examiner’s results?

 

[ETV]

like a white Miss Cleo.

You miss her on TV, don't you? I bet you had that 900 # memorized.

 

[VolStrom]

What does that have to do with what I posted. Do you disagree with the medical examiner’s results?

Yes I do. The man was killed on the street by pieces of **** cops.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Your getting close but it has been all races and both genders causing total mayhem. The television doesn't lie. Now we can debate if the black instigators are amateur versus the others being professional and that would a more interesting debate. We can also debate if at least 80% are under the age of 35.

Additionally we can debate if ignorance on social media helps or hurts.

Most riots are started by younger people, that isn't anything new. Younger people usually have a lot less to lose. Older people (for example, the protesters in Michigan) have jobs, families and responsibilities to weigh out in their decisions.

Again, what is interesting and what should be noted is the diversity of the crowds. You have a disenfranchised generation of folk out here.

 

[BreatheUT]

Good thing he's not president and things are so peachy right now.

Let's back off the ledge and be honest for a second - me and you.

I don't hang into every word of Trump. A lot of his supporters hang on to every tweet as fighting back. Ok, I get it. Some thought everything Kiffin did was good, dumb or not, was good because any news was good news. I personally find some of it as cringeworthy and not helpful. I also think he says things in ways that allow people to take his message multiple ways. You can't clearly communicate what you say in the form of tweets when it's really important. I don't want this to be acceptable for future presidents but he understands marketing.

However, I am a Trump supporter. IMO, what he says doesn't always feel good and doesn't help but it does not affect his decision making ability. You also know what you are going to get with him. He is new to politics. He does not have a 5 decade record of being terrible and lying. It is not that inexperience that I like but we see he is hated because he is an outsider. He is a common sense POTUS and also a man of the people. He attempts to do what he said he will do in most cases. He cannot help it if some Americans refuse to acknowledge he is the leader and a man of the people. He is not perfect. I did not vote for him in the primary because I didn't think he was the best option. Lining him up against what the democrats had to offer was an easy choice. I had just voted for Obama in the previous election. The democrats keep trotting out worse candidates than Clinton and that is saying something. The party is in bad shape.

Btw, by the end of Obama's term I was disappointed in his tenure.

 

[C-south]

That isn't what I'm saying.

I'm asking you to really look at why this appears to be such a unifying reaction. The people, such as yourself, that continue to be tone deaf are going to be on the wrong side of history. If you don't see that this country is in bad need of a judicial overhaul, then you are delusional and you will probably be one of the people standing in the way of real justice.

People like Hillary Clinton, these aggressive cops, counterfeiters and white collar criminals don't see the same level of punishment as the lower and middle class citizen. It really doesn't matter what color you are, it matters if you are plugged in to the network or the cabal. Politicians, banksters, law enforcement officers, military industrial complex, big business have all had their hand in destroying the lower classes and middle class of this country.

The cop was wrong. I don’t think anyone has argued otherwise.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Yes I do. The man was killed on the street by pieces of **** cops.

Ok and again how is the medical examiner’s report wrong as the family has suggested?

 

[allvol123]

That is what happens when the most divisive and least qualified POTUS is in office.

And back to no personal responsibility. Seems to be working great.

 

[BreatheUT]

Most riots are started by younger people, that isn't anything new. Younger people usually have a lot less to lose. Older people (for example, the protesters in Michigan) have jobs, families and responsibilities to weigh out in their decisions.

Again, what is interesting and what should be noted is the diversity of the crowds. You have a disenfranchised generation of folk out here.

Not following your last sentence.

 

[C-south]

That is what happens when the most divisive and least qualified POTUS is in office.

He been gone

 

[k-town_king]

I get it..... you condone the actions of the “protestors”.... maybe a crowd of angry white people will surround your vehicle this evening and you can come back and tell us how you simply called the cops

No Im not dumb enough to go where i'm going to be blocked in. If I did my answer would not be to try and run over and kill someone.

 

[k-town_king]

A surprisingly high percentage of the protesters in East Tennessee are white, I’ll give you that.

As for those participating in these riots/lootings of “major” cities nationwide? It’s majority black, dude, and it’s not even close.

False

 

[VolStrom]

Ok and again how is the medical examiner’s report wrong as the family has suggested?

I'll bet you'll find out soon enough. Why do you continue to support bad cops? I don't understand what you guys get out of supporting a killer?
Let me add to this about how quickly this "autopsy" report came out. In every case it seems to take a minimum of a month and usually greater for an autopsy report to come out and this one flies out the door in a couple of days? Yeah right.

 

[k-town_king]

Now medical examiner science is racist

Many have been found to manipulate findings to fit the police narrative. This is not new info.

 

[allvol123]

Many have been found to manipulate findings to fit the police narrative. This is not new info.

Yes! I believe in science until it doesnt fit my rants.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

The cop was wrong. I don’t think anyone has argued otherwise.

Most haven't defended him. But that isn't the issue.

The issue is that the people complaining about the riots and saying it is counterproductive can't understand, nor do they want to understand, why the rioting even started.

Similarly, the people that are rioting have no desire to understand the people calling for peace.

Both sides are talking at each other and have no desire to talk to each other. No desire at all. they would rather dig in their heels and live in their respective echo chambers.

 

[allvol123]

Most haven't defended him. But that isn't the issue.

The issue is that the people complaining about the riots and saying it is counterproductive can't understand, nor do they want to understand, why the rioting even started.

Similarly, the people that are rioting have no desire to understand the people calling for peace.

Where is Greta Thunberg when you need her?

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Now medical examiner science is racist

Everything is RACIST now. Race and racism reigns supreme. The democrats have designated medical science, the Virus, one-hundred year old marble statues, and even BROWN paper bags as racist.

The list of things listed as RACIST by the Leftist democrats grows daily and is never ending.

 

[Rickyvol77]

I'll bet you'll find out soon enough. Why do you continue to support bad cops? I don't understand what you guys get out of supporting a killer?
Let me add to this about how quickly this "autopsy" report came out. In every case it seems to take a minimum of a month and usually greater for an autopsy report to come out and this one flies out the door in a couple of days? Yeah right.

How did I “support a bad cop”? I stated several times in this thread that he should’ve been fired immediately and he was and that he was in the wrong. I also was among the first to correctly ascertain that the drug use and underlying health conditions of the dude played a factor into his death

 

[allvol123]

Everything is RACIST now. Race and racism reigns supreme. The democrats have designated medical science, the Virus, and even BROWN paper bags as racist.

The list of things listed as RACIST by the Leftist democrats grows daily and is never ending.

This will happen until we stop viewing society AND legislation thru a racial lens.