Any new on Hopson or Harris?

#27
#27
mch317 said:
*this
*was
*getting
*old
*8
*months
*ago.

I just remembered why I don't come around here very often anymore. Save the dumb a** comments for someone else. I wont read the thread again. Consider it a favor. :)

I want Harris much, much, much more than Hopson.
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Bye.
 
#28
#28
Judge_Smails said:
If he's smart he'll leave. Hopsons draft status isnt going to go up. With all the wing players and forwards returning, he'll be picked higher that usual. UNC's players alone would knock him down 3 spots.
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Really? The last draft projection I saw, he was going to be the last pick. Has he done something to improve his stock, like learn how to dribble?
 
#29
#29
Sudeepvol said:
You people that want Hopson out of UT are funny. I laugh every time I read posts that want our best player to leave.
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Agreed. These are the same people who selectively forget how badly the team played when he was out last year with the bad ankle.
 
#30
#30
Harris will have so much defense focused on him if Hopson is gone... I still expect his #'s to improve due to increased minutes, but it will be harder for him to get good looks if our team doesn't have a 2nd scorer of Hopson's ability or at least comparable. If Hopson goes, and Jones doesn't qualify... Assuming Harris returns, we will have one solitary proven scorer on our team without the hopes of anyone really emerging IMO.
 
#31
#31
Yeah, we don't need a first team All-SEC player, what with all the talent we have stockpiled. Anyone who posted that they did not want Hopson back is a moronic, idiotic, bunhole.
 
#32
#32
Im not going to say I dont want Scotty back. But I will say if one had to go out of Hopson and Harris, I would rather see him go. Thing about Scotty is he does more psychological bad for the team than he does good. With Hopson and harris both here, people will still look up to Scotty. That in itself hurts our team. I think losing Scotty would make the whole team have to be better. Sort of like the losing of Tyler Smith made our team better as a whole. There will be no give it to Scotty and stand around and wait. Others will need to step up and I think we have people who can.
 
#35
#35
We had a lot more players capable of scoring the ball when Tyler got axed than we do currently. Similar talent IMO, just different strengths and weaknesses.
 
#36
#36
Why do you want Hopson back - that's is the real question? Do you want his dependable offense? 20+ one game; then 5 points the next? Against a quality defender when he has to work to get off a shot and gets banged around we get to see the pouting Scotty. In no game did we see him hit the glass for the rebounds, or get floor burns diving for loose balls, or make the extra pass to a wide open player, or really work to get open in crunch time, or stay in front of the man he is defending instead of playing the Matordor Defense he normally plays.

How can anyone mean it when they say he is our best player? There is so much more to basketball than scoring well in half of the games and doing virtually nothing else. If Harris did not play for us this past season we don't even make the NIT. Give me Harris 100% of the time over Hopson. If Hopson does come back, which I highly doubt at this stage, he would benefit from a hard nose coaching staff that will make him play hard in all aspects of the game - or sit.
 
#37
#37
Vols4us said:
Why do you want Hopson back - that's is the real question? Do you want his dependable offense? 20+ one game; then 5 points the next? Against a quality defender when he has to work to get off a shot and gets banged around we get to see the pouting Scotty. In no game did we see him hit the glass for the rebounds, or get floor burns diving for loose balls, or make the extra pass to a wide open player, or really work to get open in crunch time, or stay in front of the man he is defending instead of playing the Matordor Defense he normally plays.

How can anyone mean it when they say he is our best player? There is so much more to basketball than scoring well in half of the games and doing virtually nothing else. If Harris did not play for us this past season we don't even make the NIT. Give me Harris 100% of the time over Hopson. If Hopson does come back, which I highly doubt at this stage, he would benefit from a hard nose coaching staff that will make him play hard in all aspects of the game - or sit.
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Who, from UT, was a first team All-SEC selection?

Thanks
 
#38
#38
Yeah, Hopson sure couldn't play in the big games, what with his best game being in Pitt.
 
#39
#39
I don't think anyone's denying that Hopson had problems, but to say that we would have been better off without him last year or that we would be better without him this year is silly.
 
#47
#47
I sincerely do not follow the logic of the people who are claiming we're better off without him. Given our roster and recruits, I just don't see how you can conjure the idea that we would have/will won/win more games without him.
 
#48
#48
Chris4Vols22 said:
I sincerely do not follow the logic of the people who are claiming we're better off without him. Given our roster and recruits, I just don't see how you can conjure the idea that we would have/will won/win more games without him.
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It's like when we got significantly better when Tyler Smith was booted. Were we more talented? No. But we shared the ball better offensively and had much better chemistry. I'm not saying that will definitely happen as a result of Hopson's departure, but it's not crazy to think that it might.
 
#49
#49
LawVol13 said:
It's like when we got significantly better when Tyler Smith was booted. Were we more talented? No. But we shared the ball better offensively and had much better chemistry. I'm not saying that will definitely happen as a result of Hopson's departure, but it's not crazy to think that it might.
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Ah, good point. I didn't consider it from that perspective, but I see what you and Dadurker are saying. So if it were hypothetically like that last season, it's a little more difficult to see Goins, Tatum, or Williams step up the way Chism did after Smith was booted.
 
#50
#50
LawVol13 said:
The guy made some excellent points.
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It's no secret Hopson has major flaws in his game, everyone knows it. However, that does not take away from the fact that he was the best player on the team this year and had a stretch of about 8 games late in the season where he was playing like a first team All-American. I'll also throw in the fact that he has gotten significantly better each year he's been in Knoxville.

Whether or not the team will be better off without him is tough to argue either way. Just because it happened once (with T. Smith) does not mean it's the rule. Considering the talent level of this team next year, having Hopson back as a senior would be a huge step forward. I also believe Martin wouldn't put up with his soft attitude and change him for the better.
 
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