Anyone believe these 2012 POTUS poll results???

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utvolpj said:
you should get a programmable thermostat and save some money
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The only thing that programmable thermometers really do is to allow you to set the temp depending on the time of day so that you can increase the temp when you are not home. I work at home and so I am here a lot. They also cost about $150 and who knows how long it would take to get a return on the investment.
 
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azVolFan said:
The only thing that programmable thermometers really do is to allow you to set the temp depending on the time of day so that you can increase the temp when you are not home. I work at home and so I am here a lot. They also cost about $150 and who knows how long it would take to get a return on the investment.
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Less than a year.
 
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actually you can get them pretty cheap but if you work at home you could be screwed (they're actually free in VA). And I highly doubt you average $400/mo. There are high months in AZ but there are also many low ones
 
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droski said:
it can still be accurate and be stupid. the two are not mutually exclusive. the message gets lost when all you do is throw out catch phrases.
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That's what our society has devolved to and they must use phrases such as those to get the message to the people. It is sad but they are working within the confines that exist.

The left is just as guilty if not even more so. "Environmentally Friendly" is very often anti-human. Do you know that truckers are not allowed to idle their trucks in California because of "greenhouse gas emissions" but can if they have a pet?!?! In this case "environmentally friendly" means humans can suffer but animals are comfortable. Sounds reasonable. :crazy:
 
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azVolFan said:
That's what our society has devolved to and they must use phrases such as those to get the message to the people. It is sad but they are working within the confines that exist.
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you may be right, but i do think a big part of people's dislike of palin has to do with her dumbing down everything (or at least i hope that's what she is doing).
 
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If the Republicans nominate Sarah Palin I'm going to be furious. I can't bring myself to vote for Obama, but I probably wouldn't vote for either candidate.
 
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Despite these polls, I still think Obama will win. I could see there being enough of a gain in the economy that he convinces clueless people it's his doing, and I assume a large African American voter turnout will also help him. If the dems retain the house, there may have been a better chance of him losing, but with the Republican's in control of the house, anti-democrat sentiment won't be as high and Obama can at least point to something for being unable to accomplish anything in the next 2 years.
 
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depends who the republicans put up against him. they're will likely be some noticable improvement in the economy, but i doubt enough to ensure he gets reelected. i also doubt the economy tanks enough to ensure he doesn't get reelected. if the repubs put the same corpes up there they did last time we'll see a similar result.
 
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utvolpj said:
actually you can get them pretty cheap but if you work at home you could be screwed (they're actually free in VA). And I highly doubt you average $400/mo. There are high months in AZ but there are also many low ones
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Very true. The amount of time the heat needs to be on is pretty minimal and it's hard to wear less than shorts and a t-shirt but it's possible to put more on. In the winter (which lasts about 6 weeks) it gets to freezing at night but can climb to 60-70 during the day. 30-40 degree days are pretty rare.

I haven't run the air in several days but it gets to 83-84 degrees in the house by 4 or 5 o'clock. When the sun goes down, the temp goes down with it. It's currently 1:14 PM and 81 in the house. Of course I have windows open and fans running. It's still very dry so moisture is quickly evaporated off the skin making 81 here much more comfortable than 81 in Knoxville (I lived there about 20 years). Having fans on all the time does have drawbacks like dry eyeballs.
 
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I understand where you're coming from since I lived in Tempe for 7yrs. Made the mistake one summer of turning off my a/c while on vacation
 
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droski said:
depends who the republicans put up against him. they're will likely be some noticable improvement in the economy, but i doubt enough to ensure he gets reelected.
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I'm not so sure. I have a feeling that with the way things have been so bad, any noticeable improvement wil have people buying into him.
if the repubs put the same corpes up there they did last time we'll see a similar result.
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I'd be pretty upset with the party if McCain/Palin are anywhere near the ticket.
 
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McCain won't be there but there's no doubt Palin will at least try
 
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I never trust CNN on anything.

I saw another poll from among Republicans that had Romney at 22%, Palin and Huckabee at 19% each.

That would leave 40% undecided or supporting other candidates.

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The current midterm results certainly isn't a ringing endorcement of the republican party, it's a sound rejection of the obama led democratic liberal radical socialist agenda.

Barry called it a shelacking, I call it an ass kicking!! :)
 
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droski said:
Not sure how much of the hispanic vote rubio could pull seeing as how he's cuban and most of the hispanics in this country are from mexico. he does seem to be a dynamic guy though. I don't know much about his policies.
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He had to walk a thin line on immigration reform. At one point said he opposed an Arizona-type law here in Florida.

He's got a healthy dose of religion in his policy-making, but my guess is that he will put that on the back burner since he's the current chosen one for the GOP.
 
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tvolsfan said:
If the Republicans nominate Sarah Palin I'm going to be furious. I can't bring myself to vote for Obama, but I probably wouldn't vote for either candidate.
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She sure does sound like she's running, doesn't she?

I don't think she can help herself.

Media are absolutely praying that she does. What a field day for them (both Fox and the real media).
 
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droski said:
depends who the republicans put up against him. they're will likely be some noticable improvement in the economy, but i doubt enough to ensure he gets reelected. i also doubt the economy tanks enough to ensure he doesn't get reelected. if the repubs put the same corpes up there they did last time we'll see a similar result.
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You're right on. The key is unemployment. I saw this graph that showed unemployment levels and presidential elections. No president running for reelection has won when the unemployment has been 7.5% or higher. Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, and Bush I were the most recent. It will be interesting (and tough) to see if unemployment drops below that in two years.
 
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lawgator1 said:
She sure does sound like she's running, doesn't she?

I don't think she can help herself.

Media are absolutely praying that she does. What a field day for them (both Fox and the real media).
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I don't think there is any way that she runs, and I'll give credit to a good strategic advisor, or perhaps (though doubtful) Palin herself. Her best approach is to continue doing what she has managed to be successful at... deliver a relatively good, rehearsed speech, continue to build a following, stay in the spotlight, and have others be the ones who suggest she would be a good candidate.

She either knows, or has been advised, that she is not electable. So this way she doesn't have to put herself out there where she can be defeated and potentially damage and end her "career". However, by creating a loyal following she puts herself in a very favorable position of throwing her endorsement behind another candidate in exchange for a cabinet position.
 
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lawgator1 said:
She sure does sound like she's running, doesn't she?

I don't think she can help herself.

Media are absolutely praying that she does. What a field day for them (both Fox and the real media).
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she wants to run, but i dont think she has a prayer of winning the nomination.
 
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I'd be extremely upset if she got any support. Not just because I think she's less likely to defeat Obama, but also because I'm not happy seeing people as seemingly crazy as her getting so much attention. She shouldn't be getting so much attention from so many people.
 
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