Anyone have an idea where Pruitt learned this payoff scheme from?

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DenmarkVol said:
I gotta say Fulmer was very, very lucky he didn’t receive some kind of punishment from all this.
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Just curious, what would his penalty be for simply trusting the guy with no apparent accountability? Don't think he can be punished except written up for lack of institutional accountability. Thank Phil for 1998 and quietly ride off into the sunset as a VFL to be heard from minimally in the future.
 
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Carp said:
Every team did it. The question is, did other teams do it as blatantly obvious as Pruitt did?

Pulling money straight out the ATM? He wasn't even trying to hide it.
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I think Pruitt threw the caution he learned under Saban to the wind. I think he wasn't super happy at UT anyway and said Dam the torpedo's. I'm gonna buy players like their going out of fashion. If I don't get caught and we just out personnel teams and I finish with Double digit wins for a few years. I may be in line to succeed Saban. If not who cares I've always hated UT anyway, tanking them would be a bit to my liking. So he went all in, problem is , he's a terrible CEO, Hueple took what was left sans about 30 to 40 ship jumping, by bought players like Toto, Gray etal.
Hueple CEOd circles around Pruitt with bare bones teams and 11 wins last year, just remarkable IMO.
 
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Anyone have an idea where Pruitt learned this payoff scheme from?


Probably from Fielding Yost......paying players has been around since the dawn of the game.
 
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I imagine most all teams do it. Some get caught, others don't. What's always bothered me about Pruitt, I believe everyone, most everyone knew what was going on in the program. If he had been winning games, they would have turned a blind eye. This was "used" to get him off payroll. JMO
 
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Easier to cheat at Bama, they'd had a lot of decades to perfect it.. That team generates a lot of revenue across the whole state. Easier when everyone pulls in the same direction..
 
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Sara Clark said:
I imagine most all teams do it. Some get caught, others don't. What's always bothered me about Pruitt, I believe everyone, most everyone knew what was going on in the program. If he had been winning games, they would have turned a blind eye. This was "used" to get him off payroll. JMO
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Firing Pruitt was not Fulmer's first intention.
Tennessee's Phillip Fulmer was fooled by Jeremy Pruitt or feigned ignorance, email shows
The Fulmer email to Plowman advocating retention of Pruitt and sitting tight in light of the allegations is extremely disturbing, and has poisoned my feelings toward Fulmer. He was worse than I could have ever imagined as AD. He would have circled the wagons and guided us to bowl bans, far more scholarship reductions, and recruiting handcuffs.
 
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Jaxon_Vol2017 said:
I hate you and everything your sh***y fan base stands for.
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If anyone thinks bama and Georgia haven't led the way in paying for players, they are sadly naive. They are the best teams because they have the best players and they have "laundered" their trails better than any other programs. Only TN could hire a guy as dumb as a rock to implement that system in Knoxville.
 
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DenmarkVol said:
I gotta say Fulmer was very, very lucky he didn’t receive some kind of punishment from all this.
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If Fulmer knew about this, why couldn't that be considered a breach of contract and at the very least, stop the ridiculous payout he got? And to read Fulmer wanted to keep Pruitt as coach, even after the cheating came to light, I'm happy he is no longer the AD.
 
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i don’t think there was anything fancy here. Neids was getting money out of an account he shared with his parents. Moronic scheme.
 
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volfanhill said:
I can say, with a high degree of confidence, that Nick nor Terry Saban have directly given players or their families cash. He's just not that dumb. Doesn't mean they didn't/don't cheat. But this level of ass hatery is absurd
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At the end of 2008, a group of donors put together a plan, and the funds, to bring Saban to Tennessee. Feelers were sent out and the response was positive. However, the UT administration killed the deal.

Since then, Saban had created a system where he used his personal funds to pay players. He was compensated by the university through a high salary and bonuses and the establishment of his car dealerships. An aide for Saban, an Alabama grad with deep ties to the university, had been the bagman for Saban since day one. This system inoculated the university from potential blowback and kept the system confined to a small number of people. Alabama went from having normal fluctuations in recruiting rankings prior to 2008, to literally having the number one ranked class for 10 of the next 12 years, heights seen by no school, ever, over even a three year span. Kirby Smart has transitioned this same system over to Georgia and Pruitt was supposed to do the same at Tennessee, but he was simply to stupid to make anything a success. Don't think for a second that Fulmer didn't know all of this when he brought Pruitt in. At a gathering of big donors for a first meeting of Pruitt, Fulmer asked one of them what he thought of Pruitt. His response was, he doesn't seem that bright. Fulmer's response was, he can bring in the recruits and I will be there for the football stuff.

Alabama has averaged three first round draft picks per year, over the past ten years, twice as many as any other team. It is easy to dominate when you clearly have superior players. NIL is fundamentally changing the dynamic and this is why Saban has been such a vocal critic.

I would have loved to have had Saban in 2009 and brought this all to Tennessee. But, that was then.

Now, for what the state of Tennessee football has been over the past decade and how NIL is changing the landscape, I would not trade Heupel for anyone.
 
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Sara Clark said:
I imagine most all teams do it. Some get caught, others don't. What's always bothered me about Pruitt, I believe everyone, most everyone knew what was going on in the program. If he had been winning games, they would have turned a blind eye. This was "used" to get him off payroll. JMO
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Eh, may be a little bit. But what's been reported was pretty damning. There a different levels of cheating. Pruitt was being completely wreckless.
 
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brockytop said:
Inquiring minds want to know 🤷🏻

Love to know if this one question was ever asked by the infractions folks. My guess is it wasn’t touched with a 10 foot pole.
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Oh come on Peeps.

Mankind has used bribes to influence people since the dawn of currency. This ain't reinventing the wheel.
 
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onevol74 said:
First thing Saban told Alabama when he took the job was that he controlled all information and media around the program. There was a reason for that. He would have never took the job if the Knoxville News Sentinel ran the Tuscaloosa media.
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Yup and his feelings towards other teams NIL's shows his hand, if you pay attention. The only way this would ever get out is if he pisses off the wrong reporter years from now
 
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dobre_shunka said:
That an "unnamed booster" was disassociated as part of the self-imposed penalties, it would appear some money came from him.

But $60k over two years when you're a head coach making almost $4 million a year isn't a huge sum to pull from your own pocket.
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Agreed. I do not believe the $60K number for one minute. I think the number is much, much higher. $60K may be what they have been able to prove. It's widely rumored that $180K was the amount Auburn gave Cam Newton's father. $60k over a three year period is nothing.
 
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Enigmatic_Vol said:
This stuff has been going on at UAT for decades.... before I was born... Bryant was a buddy of Logan Young's dad, and later Logan... this goes back to when Bryant came to UAT. In fact, I know Bryant was cited for cheating at TAMU before... and I think Maryland. It's endemic at toilettown... part of their culture. Stallings wasn't exactly "clean Gene" either if you recall.
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. Biggest cheaters in NCAA history. It is just what they are. All the way from coaches , players and fans.
 
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Pruitt was a Bama hack. Nobody in his position would have been so blatant the way he was. He either cheated on purpose to get caught or when he saw the job wasn’t going to work out he did it to screw Tennessee.
 
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And what's with all the manicures? That's one thing that really just leaps off the page. If these athletes are bringing 5 or 10 people with them, without telling who the people are, then that has to be the norm basically all over, you'd think. And it's the high school coaches telling them how to act and what they're entitled to.
 
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