Anyone know anything about hot water heaters

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Don't go tankless if you are electric. If you are considering gas tank less then OK, but still many things to consider including recirculation systems as a method to cut down wait time. Payback is often 7+ years without any tax incentives. What are you being quoted?
 
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barknoxbrawler said:
I prefer gas anything over electric appliances but that is another discussion.

I go tank WH over instant every time. The main reason is use. I have 4 kids and a wife and they constantly use hot water ( dishwasher, washer, drinks). This would keep the hot water heater almost constantly running. I don't like things constantly running.
Plus...... I added a circulating pump to my WH to keep it instant at every dispensing point.
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This. WH is on the far end of my house. It takes a few minutes for the water to get hot in the master bath. I'm looking into a recirculating pump for sure. Saves money on water and gas or electric to run the WH.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
You can do it but if it levels your house you have no licensed installer to sue and I don't see your insurance paying when they find out you installed it.
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Lol. I turn the gas and electric off.

I am brave though. I light my own pilot lights on the water heater and the central heat.
 
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volger said:
This. WH is on the far end of my house. It takes a few minutes for the water to get hot in the master bath. I'm looking into a recirculating pump for sure. Saves money on water and gas or electric to run the WH.
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Check out a Grundfos comfort series pump. Simple install and no need for a separate circ line. I've also installed a small 120v point of use heater under the kitchen sink for when I needed instant hot water. Again very easy install and relatively inexpensive
 
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Obsessed said:
Wasn't that part of the cash for clunkers deal? Cars,heat and air, refrigerators, etc?
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I think there was rebates on some more efficient models. As of 1/1/15 they'll all need to meet certain standards, which will drive up costs.

Problem is, they weren't horribly inefficient to begin with. I've got a +/- 15 year old oil burner that uses next to nothing for oil.
 
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Obsessed said:
Have you checked with any of the big stores?
Lowes or Home Depot?
Sometimes you can get discount installs through them.
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I did today, actually. Lowe's only seems to carry Whirlpool and wouldn't give me an install quote unless I paid them $35 so I said no thanks. I'm waiting for the Home Depot people to get back to me.
 
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spyfish007 said:
Don't go tankless if you are electric. If you are considering gas tank less then OK, but still many things to consider including recirculation systems as a method to cut down wait time. Payback is often 7+ years without any tax incentives. What are you being quoted?
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It's gas. The going rate for parts and labor based on a few quotes seems to be $1500-1600 for a traditional tank-based heater and $2500-2600 for a tankless system.

Those quotes are for Rheem and Rinnai.
 
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I just installed one at my wife's uncle's house. We live in florida and most appliances are electric. They are really easy to install. <2 hours which included going to the store and buying the thing.
 
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We had a Takagi T-K4-IN-N(tankless) installed a couple years ago. This may be something as simple as an adjustment to the unit or maybe not but we have a couple of the faucets in the house that have issues pulling hot water. One of them, because of the design of the faucet, has a lower psi than typical faucets so you end up having to run it for 30+ seconds to pull hot water. The other is the kitchen sink which sometimes has trouble maintaining a "warm" setting where you either get cold or HOT water.
 
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Freak said:
I've gotten a couple of quotes and the the tankless is about $1000 more than the traditional tank heater. Still trying to decide.
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Try my website. We sell tons of them, and I think we have some pretty competitive pricing.

I would say go tankless as long as your house isn't too big and don't plan on moving soon. You will save in the long run.

https://www.plumbersstock.com/category/76/tankless/
 
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Freak said:
It's gas. The going rate for parts and labor based on a few quotes seems to be $1500-1600 for a traditional tank-based heater and $2500-2600 for a tankless system.

Those quotes are for Rheem and Rinnai.
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On good. Gas and good brands. How large of a unit in both cases? How many showers/sinks do you have? Send me a PM if you want.
 
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Freak said:
It's gas. The going rate for parts and labor based on a few quotes seems to be $1500-1600 for a traditional tank-based heater and $2500-2600 for a tankless system.

Those quotes are for Rheem and Rinnai.
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Good grief, that's kind of pricey. I'd say buy it online and check into a local plumber to get it installed. There is no way a tankless is costing that much.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Good grief, that's kind of pricey. I'd say buy it online and check into a local plumber to get it installed. There is no way a tankless is costing that much.
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Those prices are for the heater and installation. I have three quotes now and all are similar. And I'm out of time. My kids told me if I don't get this resolved soon I have to go, so... :)
 
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Freak said:
Those prices are for the heater and installation. I have three quotes now and all are similar. And I'm out of time. My kids told me if I don't get this resolved soon I have to go, so... :)
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You should just go with the Toshiba then
 
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Spyfish I'm looking at a Rannai tankless. I have 3.5 baths and two other sinks.
 
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