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#26
#26
omghulkhands said:
It is possible, just not very likely.

Arky isn't gonna lay down

Ole Miss is better than anyone here is giving them credit for, I assume they have not watched them play any

LSU isn't consistent but they have played teams tough

Vandy is just good, pure and simple


In my mind we can lose a game, but it can't be to vandy as they would be a good rpi builder. In addition we would have to beat either Vandy, UK, Florida or Miss st. In the tournament and not lose to an sec team from the bottom half of the standing
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Playing Vandy is an RPI builder all by itself. The reason we have to beat Vandy is that it's at home. Home losses count as -1.4 against the overall record. Same thing applies to the other two home games.
 
#27
#27
zansdad said:
Playing Vandy is an RPI builder all by itself. The reason we have to beat Vandy is that it's at home. Home losses count as -1.4 against the overall record. Same thing applies to the other two home games.
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this.

we cant lose at home, it would really hurt our rpi. if we are going to lose, you want it to probably be at bama, or at lsu.
 
#28
#28
bleedingTNorange said:
if we win 5 of 6 we're looking around in the 60 range

but your forgetting the sec t, 2 wins there were in the 40's

go read the thread i started i really broke down every scenario with numbers from an actual rpi rating standpoint
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I haven't had a chance to read your RPI discussion in the other thread but I see no chance our RPI can get anywhere near the 40's. If we win 5 of 6 and the 2 tourney games you talk about that puts us at 20-14 with one non D1 victory. 19 wins with all those bad losses won't even put us on the bubble when considering RPI. IMO

I don't want to seem like a negative guy here but a lot of posters were ready to jump ship after the Vandy game. You even suggested that this team wouldn't make the NCAA next season the following day. If we lose a few more games not all will be lost. Most of us will realize that but I worry many will be back to where they were after the Vandy game.
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#29
#29
BruinVol said:
I haven't had a chance to read your RPI discussion in the other thread but I see no chance our RPI can get anywhere near the 40's. If we win 5 of 6 and the 2 tourney games you talk about that puts us at 20-14 with one non D1 victory. 19 wins with all those bad losses won't even put us on the bubble when considering RPI. IMO

I don't want to seem like a negative guy here but a lot of posters were ready to jump ship after the Vandy game. You even suggested that this team wouldn't make the NCAA next season the following day. If we lose a few more games not all will be lost. Most of us will realize that but I worry many will be back to where they were after the Vandy game.
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well id reccomend reading it cause it really does break down every scenario and give you an idea, but...

with what your saying 19-14 puts us at around 55, and most likely would move us into 5th best sec team.

you are correct after vandy i said things that were quick, BUT i quickly rescinded them. iirc i think i just was making a comment though that with this roster, i dont see us being a whole lot better next year. i think we just dont have enough pieces to the puzzle on this roster to be a great team, and i still feel that way.

nobody should get back to that point. this ncaa talk is just for fun, and points out the possibility that we do have a chance of actually still making it. nobody in their right mind at this ponit should be expecting to make it though, so if you dont expect it and it doesnt happen then thye shouldnt be dissapointed.
 
#30
#30
bleedingTNorange said:
well id reccomend reading it cause it really does break down every scenario and give you an idea, but...

with what your saying 19-14 puts us at around 55, and most likely would move us into 5th best sec team.

you are correct after vandy i said things that were quick, BUT i quickly rescinded them. iirc i think i just was making a comment though that with this roster, i dont see us being a whole lot better next year. i think we just dont have enough pieces to the puzzle on this roster to be a great team, and i still feel that way.

nobody should get back to that point. this ncaa talk is just for fun, and points out the possibility that we do have a chance of actually still making it. nobody in their right mind at this ponit should be expecting to make it though, so if you dont expect it and it doesnt happen then thye shouldnt be dissapointed.
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I did get over to the other thread. Nice work in the OP. Is that RPI projector a reputable site? I haven't seen it before. Those projected RPI totals look IMO to be about 10 spots too high.

The biggest issue in this discussion is we will only have one impressive win outside of TBA(unless we beat KY in the tourney) and the selection committee would see those really bad losses as more telling IMO.
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#31
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BruinVol said:
I did get over to the other thread. Nice work in the OP. Is that RPI projector a reputable site? I haven't seen it before. Those projected RPI totals look IMO to be about 10 spots too high.

The biggest issue in this discussion is we will only have one impressive win outside of TBA(unless we beat KY in the tourney) and the selection committee would see those really bad losses as more telling IMO.
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UT only has one really really bad loss right now. That is AP at home. Lots of NCAA tourney teams will have road losses to sub-par teams. However, the AP loss was before Stokes and that will be taken into consideration if UT does go on a run and get onto the bubble.
 
#32
#32
BruinVol said:
I did get over to the other thread. Nice work in the OP. Is that RPI projector a reputable site? I haven't seen it before. Those projected RPI totals look IMO to be about 10 spots too high.

The biggest issue in this discussion is we will only have one impressive win outside of TBA(unless we beat KY in the tourney) and the selection committee would see those really bad losses as more telling IMO.
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as far as i can tell and have read they are pretty reputable. they seem pretty accurate in the rest of their stuff when compared to lunardi so im pretty sure its pretty spot on.

i think the committee will look past the early season and look at the what have you done for me lately. they have said in years past that they put more weight in how you have played in the last 2 months of the season than early on in the season. also, the committee is also going to look at this team after the addition of stokes and take that into consideration. so with that said look at the resume they will look at( assuming we go 5-1 down the stretch):

since dec 20th:
15-7(10-6)
3W vs top 15


addition of stokes:
10-5(9-5)
2W vs top 15

this will be what the committee looks at mainly the last 2 months or so of the season, not the first 2 months. then they look at what have you done since you added jarnell stokes to your team, are you a ncaa team with him on your team?
 
#33
#33
bleedingTNorange said:
as far as i can tell and have read they are pretty reputable. they seem pretty accurate in the rest of their stuff when compared to lunardi so im pretty sure its pretty spot on.

i think the committee will look past the early season and look at the what have you done for me lately. they have said in years past that they put more weight in how you have played in the last 2 months of the season than early on in the season. also, the committee is also going to look at this team after the addition of stokes and take that into consideration. so with that said look at the resume they will look at( assuming we go 5-1 down the stretch):

since dec 20th:
15-7(10-6)
3W vs top 15


addition of stokes:
10-5(9-5)
2W vs top 15

this will be what the committee looks at mainly the last 2 months or so of the season, not the first 2 months. then they look at what have you done since you added jarnell stokes to your team, are you a ncaa team with him on your team?
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Its fun to consider I admit but in no way would a 3-3 finish and an early exit from the SEC tourney negate my appreciation for what the kids and staff has done since Christmas.

I really feel we will win 4 more regular season games and one game in the tourney but if we don't, I still wouldn't trade CM for any other coach.
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#34
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BruinVol said:
Its fun to consider I admit but in no way would a 3-3 finish and an early exit from the SEC tourney negate my appreciation for what the kids and staff has done since Christmas.

I really feel we will win 4 more regular season games and one game in the tourney but if we don't, I still wouldn't trade CM for any other coach.
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exactly, and i have said no matter how the season end would i be dissapointed. well, actually if we went 0-6 and misseed the nit, yes id be dissapointed. pretty much as long as we make the nit i will be very happy.

im just an optimistic person, and its fun to think at this point of the season we still actually have a chance to make the tournament as an at large. who would have thought that?

all my point was is that yes we do have a chance to make the tournament as an at large. is it going to be easy, its is likely, should we expect it? absolutely not. but, is it possible, would it be exciting? absolutely it would be. it just kind of gives fans something to keep an eye on, and maybe will draw some more fans to TBA for our upcoming home games.
 
#35
#35
The committee will put some weight to with, and without Stokes, and they should.

UT still needs to run 5-1 to finish the season and win a game or 2 in the tourney.

We have 2 or 3 losses that really suck right now.
 
#36
#36
BeecherVol said:
The committee will put some weight to with, and without Stokes, and they should.

UT still needs to run 5-1 to finish the season and win a game or 2 in the tourney.

We have 2 or 3 losses that really suck right now.
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when it comes to matching us up against another bubble team this is some things they'll consider:

they will put weight on stokes addition, and they will put very little weight on our early season debacles. they look very strongly at what have you done for me lately, and were there injuries/additions to your team.

those factors will relaly benefit us, but we also have to handle our business and win atleast 5 of 6 and 2 in the tournament to be considered.
 
#37
#37
BruinVol said:
Its fun to consider I admit but in no way would a 3-3 finish and an early exit from the SEC tourney negate my appreciation for what the kids and staff has done since Christmas.

I really feel we will win 4 more regular season games and one game in the tourney but if we don't, I still wouldn't trade CM for any other coach.
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If this is how they finish, I hope it is enough for an NIT bid. I think any post season play would be wonderful for this team considering all they have gone through.
 
#38
#38
bleedingTNorange said:
it just kind of gives fans something to keep an eye on, and maybe will draw some more fans to TBA for our upcoming home games.
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Can't wait for the Vandy game. TBA will be packed, the air will be electric and We'll give them a taste of the medicine they deserve. A good old fashion thrashing.
 
#39
#39
calban said:
Can't wait for the Vandy game. TBA will be packed, the air will be electric and We'll give them a taste of the medicine they deserve. A good old fashion thrashing.
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i was just looking around online for wed game vs arkansas and it appears as of now its gonna be empty. through ut tix you can get lower level seats, if you want upper deck you can sit 4 rows up in the upper deck, not a good sign.

stub hub has a bunch of lower level tickets starting at $20, cheaper than you can get them through the ticket office.

we really need to pack TBA, these last 3 home games and do whatever we can to help our team get a victory. hopefully the students show up as well, they do make a difference when they are there and loud.
 
#40
#40
bleedingTNorange said:
i was just looking around online for wed game vs arkansas and it appears as of now its gonna be empty. through ut tix you can get lower level seats, if you want upper deck you can sit 4 rows up in the upper deck, not a good sign.

stub hub has a bunch of lower level tickets starting at $20, cheaper than you can get them through the ticket office.

we really need to pack TBA, these last 3 home games and do whatever we can to help our team get a victory. hopefully the students show up as well, they do make a difference when they are there and loud.
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That's a shame. This team deserves a good crowd on wed. Hopefully the weather will be good and there will be a huge walk up crowd.
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#41
#41
BruinVol said:
That's a shame. This team deserves a good crowd on wed. Hopefully the weather will be good and there will be a huge walk up crowd.
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i hope so. also, for the upper deck tickets which are $15 you get a voucher for an entree at texas roadhouse. hell it costs $15/entree there thats actually a good deal, UT marketing is trying to get people iln there, but what can you do i guess.
 
#44
#44
bleedingTNorange said:
c'mon man, may be last chance for a home game. or are you planning on coming for ole miss or vandy?
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Those are both home games, aren't they? I doubt it. I do still have som work I need to do on my parents house that I don't want my father doing. who knows?
 
#45
#45
MphsBlues said:
Those are both home games, aren't they? I doubt it. I do still have som work I need to do on my parents house that I don't want my father doing. who knows?
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arky ole miss and vandy are the final 3 homes games of the season.

im sure you could find a good excuse to come to k-town haha.
 
#46
#46
Coach Martin quote to fans:

" We need our fans, and we need their support to help get us over the hump, if our guys are giving effort, and they are leaving everything out on the floor, they deserve that support."
 
#47
#47
bleedingTNorange said:
i was just looking around online for wed game vs arkansas and it appears as of now its gonna be empty. through ut tix you can get lower level seats, if you want upper deck you can sit 4 rows up in the upper deck, not a good sign.

stub hub has a bunch of lower level tickets starting at $20, cheaper than you can get them through the ticket office.

we really need to pack TBA, these last 3 home games and do whatever we can to help our team get a victory. hopefully the students show up as well, they do make a difference when they are there and loud.
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Fans should pack the arena Wed. night to welcome back this team after a stellar performance in Gainesville. Here is what Cuonzo Martin said :

"We need our fans, and we need their support to help get us over the hump," Martin said. "If our guys are giving effort, and they are leaving everything out on the floor, they deserve that support."

Come on people, let's fill it up!
 
#48
#48
Oh well, sorry about that bleeding orange, didn't see your post right before mine....

OK to re-emphasize this I guess...
 
#50
#50
bleedingTNorange said:
haha its all good. it should be plastered all over VN, if TBA doesnt have atleast 17k in it thats a dissapointment.
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Exactly. That quote is very telling to me. I am too far away to come and have no chance to make it but it makes me feel guilty not being there wednesday night.
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