Arizona Election Audit

[AshG]

He's can be all three. Marxism is a migration to communism, socialism at the point of a gun. Fascism is silencing critics. Watch the press secretary on Friday?

So you're changing definitions to fit your worldview. Not a good look.

 

[InVOLuntary]

In a complex world where individuals have to keep up with so much, we have to make values based decisions on what gets our attention.

Did a memo go out saying that all good party members must obsess over the Steele dossier or turn in their cards? I'm not sure how this gatekeeping thing works that you continue to espouse.

Are you freaking kidding me? The democrats spent 4 years trying to oust a dully elected president by any means necessary including a fabricated dossier paid for by the DNC. That's OK with you? People have been executed for treason for lessor crimes. The democratic propaganda machine called the media, even the ones you claim are "neutral " totally swept in under the rug. Ends justify the means I guess?

I could go on and on as well.

 

[InVOLuntary]

So you're changing definitions to fit your worldview. Not a good look.

Maybe you should go review the definitions.

 

[AshG]

Are you freaking kidding me? The democrats spent 4 years trying to oust a dully elected president by any means necessary including a fabricated dossier paid for by the DNC. That's OK with you? People have been executed for treason for lessor crimes. The democratic propaganda machine called the media, even the ones you claim are "neutral " totally swept in under the rug. Ends justify the means I guess?

I could go on and on as well.

You're making yet more assumptions. I'll ask kindly that you not play "Guess what AshG believes."

 

[AshG]

Maybe you should go review the definitions.

I provided the textbook academic definitions earlier.

 

[Velo Vol]

People have been executed for treason for lessor crimes.

Name one.

 

[Septic]

Then why never criticize? By remaining silent and continuing to call out the conservatives it tells me otherwise. You've never called the dems out for their coup. I guess it was acceptable since you hate Trump.

Tells you what? That we believe different things? Good call Cotton.

Spoiler Alert: We do. Your labels do not interest me, call me a liberal Marxist fascist socialist if it makes you feel better, your tribalistic view towards politics is low brow and boring.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Tells you what? That we believe different things? Good call Cotton.

Spoiler Alert: We do. Your labels do not interest me, call me a liberal Marxist fascist socialist if it makes you feel better, your tribalistic view towards politics is low brow and boring.

Lol, it tells that you believe what liberals believe making you a liberal. It's OK to admit it. I know who you're biggest fans on on here.

Just don't serve me chicken **** and tell me it's chicken salad.

 

[InVOLuntary]

You're making yet more assumptions. I'll ask kindly that you not play "Guess what AshG believes."

Well then where's all you're outrage? Like when you call out anything conservative.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I provided the textbook academic definitions earlier.

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.

1. the political and economic theories of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, later developed by their followers to form the basis for the theory and practice of communism.

So suppression of opposition is at the core of Fascism, and Marxism is the basic theory of communism. I definitely think both apply here.

 

[volfanhill]

I get what you’re saying. I still think there is something awful fishy up there. I don’t trust those democrat election people and the democratic governor to save my life.

Is this your way of admitting you lied about Detroit voting or just fell for a lie you read on the internet?

 

[AshG]

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.

1. the political and economic theories of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, later developed by their followers to form the basis for the theory and practice of communism.

So suppression of opposition is at the core of Fascism, and Marxism is the basic theory of communism. I definitely think both apply here.

So Biden is a neocon?

 

[tnmarktx]

So you're changing definitions to fit your worldview. Not a good look.

Because definitions on paper are actually the way things are in real life? I suppose you think antifa is actally an antifaciast group? The reality is that they are a faciast group willing to put you under their boot heel for not submitting to their views.

 

[AshG]

Because definitions on paper are actually the way things are in real life? I suppose you think antifa is actally an antifaciast group? The reality is that they are a faciast group willing to put you under their boot heel for not submitting to their views.

So they're also right wing ultranationalists? Who knew?!?

 

[evillawyer]

So what's going on with this? Any soy sauce-stained ballots been found yet?

 

[tnmarktx]

So they're also right wing ultranationalists? Who knew?!?

Where did you pull that statement from? Are you afraid to answer simple questions? When has the definition of communism ever matched the practice of it in the real world?

 

[tnmarktx]

So what's going on with this? Any soy sauce-stained ballots been found yet?

That's an extremely racist comment.

 

[AshG]

Where did you pull that statement from? Are you afraid to answer simple questions? When has the definition of communism ever matched the practice of it in the real world?

I see you haven't found a place of calm yet after you melted down last night. That's ok. We all have rough days. I understand and sympathize.

To answer your question from earlier: The name AntiFa does come from the words anti and fascist. I believe the origins were with good intentions but the group has been co-opted and turned into a group of quasi-anarchist lawbreakers and are deserving of monitoring for security reasons.

And speaking of co-opting, that is what is being done with words such as socialism, communism, fascism, etc. It is an age old tactic by which words are appropriated and definitions contorted for weaponization against a person or group. Ultimately, the original definition becomes lost all the co-opted words transition into epithets that vaguely mean "enemy."

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

That's an extremely racist comment.

 

[Orange defense]

Oh. Well. Since you think it, please continue to kick out the legs from under one of the pillars of our democratic republic.

You guys used to love to trash #fakenews, truth is - y'all are the biggest consumers of it.

Im not kicking the legs out of our republic. No one is trashing fake news when it’s the truth and people post about it.

 

[BreatheUT]

It's funny to watch them keep using words like marxist, socialist, fascist, communist interchangeably without having ANY idea about the political ideology that defines them. They're buzzwords of things they've been told are bad and that's good enough for them.

Maybe we've seen a combination of multiple ideologies. Similar to Bernies "democratic socialist" nonsense.

 

[Orange defense]

Is this your way of admitting you lied about Detroit voting or just fell for a lie you read on the internet?

I don’t think I admitted to any lie when it came out. The story came out from somewhere, which means to me there is something there. When there is smoke, there is fire. Even you should know that.

 

[tnmarktx]

I see you haven't found a place of calm yet after you melted down last night. That's ok. We all have rough days. I understand and sympathize.

To answer your question from earlier: The name AntiFa does come from the words anti and fascist. I believe the origins were with good intentions but the group has been co-opted and turned into a group of quasi-anarchist lawbreakers and are deserving of monitoring for security reasons.

And speaking of co-opting, that is what is being done with words such as socialism, communism, fascism, etc. It is an age old tactic by which words are appropriated and definitions contorted for weaponization against a person or group. Ultimately, the original definition becomes lost all the co-opted words transition into epithets that vaguely mean "enemy."

No meltdown at all. Contrary to your fantasy, shop talk is a real thing. Swearing at someone is common place. If you're that thinned skinned, that's your problem. You'd never actually make it in the real world.
Thanks for making my point. Socialist or communist gov. looks good by definition but always ends up with ruling by fasciast tactics. Let, the record show you claimed antifa started out with good intentions. Please list an example of this.

 

[AshG]

Maybe we've seen a combination of multiple ideologies. Similar to Bernies "democratic socialist" nonsense.

And all the word salad becomes a confusing jumble.

Bernie's Democratic Socialism is a slow and methodical takeover of private companies into publicly owned companies where all are shareholders and all benefit from their profit.

I don't like that one bit.

Then there's the Social Democracy of FDR, where capitalism and private ownership build an economy where a small portion of the great excesses of wealth are used to provide safety nets for the least able, veterans, and retirees.

Unfortunately these two systems both include the root word "social", and that causes people's brains to fry. In their minds, these two very disparate systems become the same thing.

 

[InVOLuntary]

So Biden is a neocon?

No but he can practice Fascism and be a leftist. Do you think antifa, the biggest fascist today, are right wingers? You know the ones that the democrats coddle?