Arizona Election Audit

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Septic said:
Tells you what? That we believe different things? Good call Cotton.

Spoiler Alert: We do. Your labels do not interest me, call me a liberal Marxist fascist socialist if it makes you feel better, your tribalistic view towards politics is low brow and boring.
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Unfortunately this is what we’ve devolved into. I know a lot on here will blame Trump but this started well before him. Look at the heat Manchin gets because he wisely won’t support eliminating the filibuster. If we could ever ditch this 2 party nonsense we would all be better for it but we’re a ways away from that happening.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
You automatically accept it as a conspiracy theory. Prime example of your conformation bias. See how that works?
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When I read a paragraph like that making outrageous claims without a shred of actual evidence to back it up, no, I'm not accepting that as fact. I feel sorry for people that do.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
If the proof is released and published, is there any chance in hell that you’ll believe it?
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When it's presented in court, 100%.

Courts, unlike politicians, are bound by rules of evidence and procedure. They have no choice but to follow the facts and the law. Otherwise, their decisions will be reversed by an appeals court. When it comes to the 2020 election litigation, some judges are finally stepping up to punish lawyers — who are otherwise constrained by ethical rules as a precondition to maintaining a law license — for apparently abusing the courts in order to spread public disinformation for political gain.
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Twitter punditry is worthless. It's why these Trump jock sniffers make all these wild accusations on social media and then completely sh*t the bed when it's put up or shut up time. The right started the war on #fakenews, pretends to despise it when it comes from the "MSM" but then embraces it when the source is a rando twitter whacko or obvious partisan hack (e.g. Posobeic)

Take the "evidence" of fraud to court or gtfo.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
When I read a paragraph like that making outrageous claims without a shred of actual evidence to back it up, no, I'm not accepting that as fact. I feel sorry for people that do.
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It's pretty clear that he doesn't understand what confirmation bias is or how it should be applied in conversation.
 
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Fact check: Arizona audit chief baselessly raises suspicion about 74,000 ballots

Logan's suggestion of some sort of unsolved mystery was definitively debunked by Garrett Archer, an election analyst at ABC15 television in Phoenix and a former official in the Arizona secretary of state's office, who is known locally and on Twitter for his mastery of the state's elections data.

Archer explained that the county stops updating the requested-ballots list, known as "EV32," after the last day people can request a mail ballot, October 23. So ballots cast in person after October 23, Archer said, were included on the submitted-ballots list, known as "EV33," but did not have a corresponding item on the "EV32" requested-ballots list.

Archer analyzed the files and found that there were 74,241 ballots on the submitted-ballots list without a corresponding entry on the requested-ballots list -- nearly identical to the figure Logan cited, "74,243." But Archer found that more than 99.9% of the ballots in question were recorded in the submitted-ballots list on October 26 or later.

That is in line with the October 23 cut-off date Archer had previously noted for the requested-ballots list.
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Patrick tweeted of the auditors: "AGAIN: They don't know what they're looking at."
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Septic said:
The people pushing this could have hired the employees from a McDonalds franchise to conduct this audit and we'd still be in the same place we are today.
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I may not go quite that far but I think it's becoming clear the cyber ninjas are likely misinterpreting data based on their lack of election process knowledge.

In my job I routinely get lots of "concrete" evidence from users the system is messing up only to quickly figure out it's their fault (my proof usually includes a username and time stamp).
 
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utvolpj said:
I may not go quite that far but I think it's becoming clear the cyber ninjas are likely misinterpreting data based on their lack of election process knowledge.

In my job I routinely get lots of "concrete" evidence from users the system is messing up only to quickly figure out it's their fault (my proof usually includes a username and time stamp).
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That's a pretty incredible claim, you know - since they started the process with the answer and how their only task was to find the question.
 
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volfanhill said:
Bullshat. You claimed more people voted in Detroit then actually lived there. Said it was impossible. Which would be correct if true. That was proven to be flat out wrong. Incorrect. Fake News make Trump sad wrong. So either you lied or were lied to. If lied to, I would hope you would reevaluate, where you are getting your info from. You didn't say x article says this. Or Y person. YOU said. Stop parroting easily verifiable lies just bc you like them.
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All I’m saying is that the story is out there, and I understand that it has been debunked. Anytime you have something like this, it needs to be investigated even deeper. I don’t think it went deep enough. It needs to be checked over again, even again. I think they hid stuff in Detroit. This is why I think where there is smoke, there is fire. I know there is a lot of articles out there, and I know that I can find a lot of them. Most of them has debunked it, and that’s is why I’m not posting none, and I’m not being lied to or believe a lie. I’ll always question something until it’s investigated.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
When I read a paragraph like that making outrageous claims without a shred of actual evidence to back it up, no, I'm not accepting that as fact. I feel sorry for people that do.
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You must feel sorry for a lot of Dems over all those ridiculous Trump stories too then. Such things don’t happen to only one side.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
Nice one Sep.
Sep: “I can’t figure out why you’re so adamant about assigning labels or otherwise putting people in a box.”
Sep from the same post:
“You, like so many of your mouth breathing red hat wearing compatriots…”
It looks to me like you have it figured out quite well.
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Lol hypocrisy wears well on some here
 
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utvolpj said:
Fact check: Arizona audit chief baselessly raises suspicion about 74,000 ballots
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The so called "Fact Check" sites are all part of Dem/Big Tech propaganda machine. The narrative is "there was no widespread fraud in the 2020 election". They will do everything in their power to protect and reinforce that narrative.

Funny that numerous Dems are on record questioning the integrity of the 2016 election and the vulnerability of our voting machines. There wasn't near as much shenanigans in that one as 2020. But we are supposed to accept, at face value, that 2020 was legit. I don't think so.
 
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SlingBlayde said:
The so called "Fact Check" sites are all part of Dem/Big Tech propaganda machine. The narrative is "there was no widespread fraud in the 2020 election". They will do everything in their power to protect and reinforce that narrative.

Funny that numerous Dems are on record questioning the integrity of the 2016 election and the vulnerability of our voting machines. There wasn't near as much shenanigans in that one as 2020. But we are supposed to accept, at face value, that 2020 was legit. I don't think so.
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Well of course they are.

The guy quoted was the former senior elections analyst at the AZ sec of state. But I do realize he's probably no cyber ninja
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Lol hypocrisy wears well on some here
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I like giving Sep crap. He certainly dishes it out and I don’t want him to feel left out so I give it back. He never responded. I guess there’s not much he could say, although I’m sure there’s pretty much always something condescending on the tip of his tongue.
 
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