Arizona Election Audit

[SlingBlayde]

So it was a concern two years before the 2020 general election and Trump never took action to ensure his re-election bid would be fair?

Hey I’m not a Trump kool aid drinker. Didn’t like his personality and some of the things he did. I did like his America first policies and that he wasn’t part of the swamp. Policy over personality. He was much better than the dementia patient we have in there now.

 

[VolinWayne]

Let's turn over Florida's election archives to some amateur Democratic "auditing" outfit for a few months and see if they find any problems.

Who could be opposed to that?

If it's a full forensic audit and and actually tries to find any and all fraud (not just cover it up) then I say absolutely do it. They should start in GA, I'm sure Kemp probably cheated (and I voted for him)

 

[Septic]

If it's a full forensic audit and and actually tries to find any and all fraud (not just cover it up) then I say absolutely do it. They should start in GA, I'm sure Kemp probably cheated (and I voted for him)

"StArT |n GurGIA"

Maybe you guys would like to hire Mike Lindell and a random taco bell staff to conduct that one?

 

[Septic]

Hey I’m not a Trump kool aid drinker. Didn’t like his personality and some of the things he did. I did like his America first policies and that he wasn’t part of the swamp. Policy over personality. He was much better than the dementia patient we have in there now.

A) Signaling to me that you're somehow neutral on Donny isn't convincing and B) it does nothing to address what I stated about the issue being ignored by Donny, his sycophant's and crotch spawn. Election security was never an issue until the human Cheeto started seeing his poll number sh*t the bed.

 

[SlingBlayde]

A) Signaling to me that you're somehow neutral on Donny isn't convincing and B) it does nothing to address what I stated about the issue being ignored by Donny, his sycophant's and crotch spawn. Election security was never an issue until the human Cheeto started seeing his poll number sh*t the bed.

I’m pro Trump for sure. Just not to the extent that I think he can do no wrong. Isn’t it up to the states to setup election security? Not sure he could have done much. It’s kind of laughable that you bring up election security but yet your own party is against voter ID laws. You have to show ID for all kinds of things in life but not voting? Give me a break.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Apparently you didn't watch the video I provided that had many many Democrats saying exactly what we are now agreeing with. That is a fact and it's on video. The only thing that's changed since then is there was a president that the entire deep state couldn't have in office

That doesn't serve as evidence that vote tabulations were tampered with.

 

[SlingBlayde]

That doesn't serve as evidence that vote tabulations were tampered with.

The video demonstrates the hypocrisy of the Dem party and their cronies, the MSM. Before 2020, it was acceptable to question election integrity. Post 2020, anyone that questions election integrity is called a conspiracy theorist and is subject to censorship. See the double standard?

 

[Impossible Girl]

That doesn't serve as evidence that vote tabulations were tampered with.

Shows narrative and hypocrisy.

 

[VolinWayne]

The video demonstrates the hypocrisy of the Dem party and their cronies, the MSM. Before 2020, it was acceptable to question election integrity. Post 2020, anyone that questions election integrity is called a conspiracy theorist and is subject to censorship. See the double standard?

They know that but would absolutely never admit it. You'd have better luck arguing with a pile of dog poop then certain people in here. I try not to waste to much of my time entertaining these type.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

How can an audit undermine anything? Audits are to legitimize (ask the IRS). If everything’s found to be legitimate, China Joe comes out looking great. Looks like the Dems would want audits so they could stick it back in the Rs faces. That’s not what we’re seeing though. They are trying to stop the audits at every turn. This makes it look like they aren’t confident that Joe really won and have something to hide.

No, they aren't confident in the company that is doing the audit. And rightfully so. They have 0 experience and an agenda.

 

[SlingBlayde]

No, they aren't confident in the company that is doing the audit. And rightfully so. They have 0 experience and an agenda.

Well, it isn’t rocket science so experience shouldn’t be an issue. As for an agenda, I think they were aware that would be an objection which is why they used extensive videoing, documentation, witnesses, etc. I would be skeptical though if I were a Biden fan. Most likely a court will have to decide.

 

[Septic]

I’m pro Trump for sure. Just not to the extent that I think he can do no wrong. Isn’t it up to the states to setup election security? Not sure he could have done much. It’s kind of laughable that you bring up election security but yet your own party is against voter ID laws. You have to show ID for all kinds of things in life but not voting? Give me a break.

I'm a libertarian and I'm all for voter ID requirements.

Got anything else?

 

[SlingBlayde]

I'm a libertarian and I'm all for voter ID requirements.

Got anything else?

Nope. Carry on.

 

[BowlBrother85]

How can an audit undermine anything? Audits are to legitimize (ask the IRS). If everything’s found to be legitimate, China Joe comes out looking great. Looks like the Dems would want audits so they could stick it back in the Rs faces. That’s not what we’re seeing though. They are trying to stop the audits at every turn. This makes it look like they aren’t confident that Joe really won and have something to hide.

As has been mentioned many times, there were two forensic audits conducted by independent firms - SLI Compliance and Pro V&V in February. Neither one found any abnormalities.

There simply isn't a set of conditions under which Donald Trump could ever lose an election without completely attributing his defeat to fraud. There also isn't an audit which could conclude a fair election took place, without him accusing the auditor of a bias against him.

 

[VolStrom]

As has been mentioned many times, there were two forensic audits conducted by independent firms - SLI Compliance and Pro V&V in February. Neither one found any abnormalities.

There simply isn't a set of conditions under which Donald Trump could ever lose an election without completely attributing his defeat to fraud. There also isn't an audit which could conclude a fair election took place, without him accusing the auditor of a bias against him.

I want to see what the vote totals are for the next presidential election when we don't have limitless mail in ballots and hidden votes being dragged out from under a table at 4 AM. If the vote totals are drastically different in the next election, you know someone cheated.

 

[Septic]

I want to see what the vote totals are for the next presidential election when we don't have limitless mail in ballots and hidden votes being dragged out from under a table at 4 AM. If the vote totals are drastically different in the next election, you know someone cheated.

Unless the two candidates are trump and Biden again I'm not sure how you could assume that elections occur in vacuums.

The eligible voter turn out for 2020 was only about 5% more than turned out in 2008. Even then the margin of victory was what 4.4% -everybody loves to focus on the 81m that Joe got but sweep under the rug the record number of voters that turned out for trump as well.

 

[VolStrom]

Unless the two candidates are trump and Biden again I'm not sure how you could assume that elections occur in vacuums.

The eligible voter turn out for 2020 was only about 5% more than turned out in 2008. Even then the margin of victory was what 4.4% -everybody loves to focus on the 81m that Joe got but sweep under the rug the record number of voters that turned out for trump as well.

You made my point for me. Trump got more votes than any incumbent in history by a wide margin, but for some reason a brainless, stupid candidate that couldn't put together 3 words without sounding like an idiot surpassed Trump by 5 or 6 million votes? That's why I want to see the next election vote tallies when the cheaters aren't counting fake votes.

 

[Septic]

You made my point for me. Trump got more votes than any incumbent in history by a wide margin, but for some reason a brainless, stupid candidate that couldn't put together 3 words without sounding like an idiot surpassed Trump by 5 or 6 million votes? That's why I want to see the next election vote tallies when the cheaters aren't counting fake votes.

People turn out to vote against much more than they do for. Remember all those "mean tweets" that were mocked as being insignificant?

Also, don't trot out brainless and stupid as digs when you're propping up Trump - it doesn't carry the weight you think it does. Also, Trump was losing in just about every poll before the election too, do we need to audit those as well? In fact, trump out performed the polls and only lost by 4.5 when the polls indicated 7.2%, clearly there must be fraud!

 

[SlingBlayde]

As has been mentioned many times, there were two forensic audits conducted by independent firms - SLI Compliance and Pro V&V in February. Neither one found any abnormalities.

There simply isn't a set of conditions under which Donald Trump could ever lose an election without completely attributing his defeat to fraud. There also isn't an audit which could conclude a fair election took place, without him accusing the auditor of a bias against him.

Try again. Those audits were nothing more than machine/software checks. Ballot by ballot is the only good way to find fraud.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

Well, it isn’t rocket science so experience shouldn’t be an issue

No but it is a Presidential Election. Someone with thorough knowledge of the process would be nice.

 

[SlingBlayde]

No but it is a Presidential Election. Someone with thorough knowledge of the process would be nice.

I agree. Don’t know the back story on how CN was selected. Looks like most of the grunt work was done by volunteers.

 

[AM64]

Serious question. Has it ever been looked into?

Nope, and that's the issue. Some errors become self evident at some point - the I-40 bridge in Memphis, but generally you have to look to find mistakes. Election errors are too much like kids doing homework that nobody checks - looks good but it's probably got lots of errors. Our issue is that after an election something like 50% of the people are satisfied, and that makes it hard to find a majority who would consider something might be wrong and needs checking.

 

[Orangeburst]

Nope, and that's the issue. Some errors become self evident at some point - the I-40 bridge in Memphis, but generally you have to look to find mistakes. Election errors are too much like kids doing homework that nobody checks - looks good but it's probably got lots of errors. Our issue is that after an election something like 50% of the people are satisfied, and that makes it hard to find a majority who would consider something might be wrong and needs checking.

Never forget the 2016 narrative..Russia changed the election results with a little propoganda.
BTW, I just saw your message count decline..weird.

 

[AshG]

Never forget the 2016 narrative..Russia changed the election results with a little propoganda.
BTW, I just saw your message count decline..weird.

I wouldn't call what Russia did a "little" propaganda. It was extremely effective and even resulted in a language shift among segments of the targeted population.

Do I believe they altered ballots and machines? Not at all. They did, however, help to drive wedges in cracks in our society that already existed and exacerbated distrust in the election process.

They used our playbook against us and convinced a good portion of our country that they did absolutely nothing.

 

[Orangeburst]

I wouldn't call what Russia did a "little" propaganda. It was extremely effective and even resulted in a language shift among segments of the targeted population.

Do I believe they altered ballots and machines? Not at all. They did, however, help to drive wedges in cracks in our society that already existed and exacerbated distrust in the election process.

They used our playbook against us and convinced a good portion of our country that they did absolutely nothing.

Keep believing that.