Arizona Election Audit

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BowlBrother85 said:
5 cities would definitely qualify as a mass hack, which top officials in the CISA of the Department of Homeland Security have described as being "nearly impossible".

"The statement mirrors past comments from top U.S. security officials, who have said a mass hack to alter voting results would be nearly impossible because of the United States' decentralized voting system and the availability of fail-safes, such as provisional ballots."

It simply didn't happen, and that is what would have been required for fraudulent activity to have had an impact on any of the statewide outcomes from the 2020 presidential election.
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Nah. 5 cities, 5 separate events. Companies, institutions, municipalities, and more get hacked all the time. Again, I’m not saying it happened. I’m just saying it’s not as impossible as the FBI is claiming. I think the more likely scenario is that there was no mass hack. That Time article laid out exactly how it happened. Between media, big tech, and key corporate collusion and the voting law changes resulting from covid it was enough to turn the tide. Reps were outmaneuvered. To me, that’s the much more likely scenario. Regardless, Biden won, Trump didn’t.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
Nah. 5 cities, 5 separate events. Companies, institutions, municipalities, and more get hacked all the time.
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Highly improbable... and 5 separate events would not go undetected by cyber security analysts in the CISA.

hUTch2002 said:
Between media, big tech, and key corporate collusion and the voting law changes resulting from covid it was enough to turn the tide. Reps were outmaneuvered.
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You left out the 2 most significant variables:

(1) Donald Trump was extremely unpopular with women voters, and (2) his egotistical nature, abrasive personality and combative style stoked anger in the opposing party's base of support, which galvanized voter turnout among Democrats. Donald Trump's flaws were just enough to compensate for the Democratic Party nominating an uninspiring, but benign, candidate of their own.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
5 cities would definitely qualify as a mass hack, which top officials in the CISA of the Department of Homeland Security have described as being "nearly impossible".

"The statement mirrors past comments from top U.S. security officials, who have said a mass hack to alter voting results would be nearly impossible because of the United States' decentralized voting system and the availability of fail-safes, such as provisional ballots."

It simply didn't happen, and that is what would have been required for fraudulent activity to have had an impact on any of the statewide outcomes from the 2020 presidential election.
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Can i ask how a margin on roughly 120k votes out of 158 million is considered a mass hack... that not even 1% of votes... thats not wide spread...thats a very precise hack...
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
So, what is your theory of how it occurred?
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IDK but audits are needed.....whether purposely or not. There are more then enough questionable votes in each of those states that it requires investment..not a recounts..ie if there are 100 real apples. But 50 are plastic and 4 foam..and you recount without inspection then you havent solved the issue..after investigating thr apples you realize you 46 are real...same with vote...laws were broken, ballots dumps happened with impossible odd of 100% for 1 candidate...they all need verified..
 
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whodeycin85 said:
IDK but audits are needed.....whether purposely or not. There are more then enough questionable votes in each of those states that it requires investment..not a recounts..ie if there are 100 real apples. But 50 are plastic and 4 foam..and you recount without inspection then you havent solved the issue..after investigating thr apples you realize you 46 are real...same with vote...laws were broken, ballots dumps happened with impossible odd of 100% for 1 candidate...they all need verified..
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ballots printed in china on bamboo paper, eh?
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
ballots printed in china on bamboo paper, eh?
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Did i say that....more along the lines of mismatch or nonexistent duplicate ballot ids.....change of custody of ballots, bleed thru on ballots....machine weighted tabulation...voters voting out of district, out of state..signatures acxepted with 0 points of reference..ballott envelopes signatures not matching..do i need to go on mentions real things...or are you just gonna bring up Q BS and conintue to make no relevant point at all..
 
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whodeycin85 said:
smatch or nonexistent duplicate ballot ids.....change of custody of ballots, bleed thru on ballots....machine weighted tabulation...voters voting out of district, out of state..signatures acxepted with 0 points of reference..ballott envelopes signatures not matching..do i need to go on mentions real things...or are yo
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You have espoused every crazy theory in the books, all of which have debunked. I didn't mean to offend you with, apparently the only crazy theory you do not believe true.

Signature matching is a fools errand. My signature is never the same. Never.

Sharpies don't invalidate ballots.

Voters voting out of district has been debunked repeatedly.

I don't even know what you mean by machine weighted tabulation.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
You have espoused every crazy theory in the books, all of which have debunked. I didn't mean to offend you with, apparently the only crazy theory you do not believe true.

Signature matching is a fools errand. My signature is never the same. Never.

Sharpies don't invalidate ballots.

Voters voting out of district has been debunked repeatedly.

I don't even know what you mean by machine weighted tabulation.
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All has been proving enough to judges in court to validate the need for auidts....bottom line you will believe nothing unless MSM verifies it...so there is point....courts judges and audits will sort it out....
 
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whodeycin85 said:
But they all have a common theme with the mail in ballots and signature issues...chain of custody....must be a coinidence
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ClearwaterVol said:
So, what is your theory of how it occurred?
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Sounds to me like this is the foggiest area they can hang their hat, while they can't prove it - it's vague enough that the low information masses will buy in to it without actual evidence.
 
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Septic said:
Sounds to me like this is the foggiest area they can hang their hat, while they can't prove it - it's vague enough that the low information masses will buy in to it without actual evidence.
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Again enough proof to get courts and judges to appoint audits...in each of those states...
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
You have espoused every crazy theory in the books, all of which have debunked. I didn't mean to offend you with, apparently the only crazy theory you do not believe true.

Signature matching is a fools errand. My signature is never the same. Never.

Sharpies don't invalidate ballots.

Voters voting out of district has been debunked repeatedly.

I don't even know what you mean by machine weighted tabulation.
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Signature matching is important. While a persons signature will vary to a certain extent it's pretty easy to tell if it's somebody forging a signature

In Maricopa County specific instructions were provided to not use sharpies up until Nov. 3. Poll workers were then specifically instructed that starting on November 3rd they were to hand everybody sharpies. Maricopa had a much higher rate of adjudication then what is normal. Bleed through would cause this. It was also revealed that the on demand ballot printers used thinner paper then what was normally used.
 
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Septic said:
Call us when it gets there. Until then, I'll laugh at you nuts while you gin up excuses.
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Audit in 4 of the 5 states are happening and MI is pushing for it now..so please laugh away...and no at this point it will not over turn the election
 
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VolinWayne said:
Signature matching is important. While a persons signature will vary to a certain extent it's pretty easy to tell if it's somebody forging a signature

In Maricopa County specific instructions were provided to not use sharpies up until Nov. 3. Poll workers were then specifically instructed that starting on November 3rd they were to hand everybody sharpies. Maricopa had a much higher rate of adjudication then what is normal. Bleed through would cause this. It was also revealed that the on demand ballot printers used thinner paper then what was normally used.
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no, it is actually not easy to tell a forgery on a random person with one exemplar.

Your sharpie theory is bs. Sharpies were distributed for ALL voters on Election Day. Prior to Election Day, during the early voting period, voters that voted in person may have been issued a ball point pen. The reason for this is because only ballots cast on Election Day can be fed through the tabulator. Ballots that are cast in person during the early voting period are sent back to the county for signature processing and then go to the Elections Department for tabulation. Therefore, fast drying ink is not an issue for early ballots.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
no, it is actually not easy to tell a forgery on a random person with one exemplar.

Your sharpie theory is bs. Sharpies were distributed for ALL voters on Election Day. Prior to Election Day, during the early voting period, voters that voted in person may have been issued a ball point pen. The reason for this is because only ballots cast on Election Day can be fed through the tabulator. Ballots that are cast in person during the early voting period are sent back to the county for signature processing and then go to the Elections Department for tabulation. Therefore, fast drying ink is not an issue for early ballots.
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As far as signatures....there are companies that validate signatures...from signatures say like stab lee when he started....and can atill verify it is the same person signing at a comic con some 60 years later...that signature will change over time but will still have points of references...that tell you it the same...if you remove points of reference then there is no way to tell of is the same person
 
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