Arizona Election Audit

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Orangeburst said:
Trump ws imnpeached for supposedly conspiring to have a foreign nation investigate a corrupt company whose political opponenent's son sat on the board.
Trump investigated and spied on by DC, nothing but applause. Could you imagine if the show was on the other foot? Just the same as comparing 1/6 and the summer riots. Not justified, justified.
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The liberal logic is something I'll never be able to grasp. Joe Biden is on video bragging about the very thing they tried to impeach Trump for. Yet whispers. They crucified Kavanaugh for some repressed memory from his high school days. "We should believe every woman!" they said. Unless it's Tera Reade against Joe Biden, then it's baseless allegations and she's a liar.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Trump ws imnpeached for supposedly conspiring to have a foreign nation investigate a corrupt company whose political opponenent's son sat on the board.
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You left out a significant detail. Trump was impeached for withholding aid to a foreign ally, as a means of prompting their president to perform what amounted to a campaign favor for him, by scheduling an appearance on CNN where an investigation of Trump's likely opponent in the 2020 Presidential General Election would be announced.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You left out a significant detail. Trump was impeached for withholding aid to a foreign ally, as a means of prompting their president to perform what amounted to a campaign favor for him, by scheduling an appearance on CNN where an investigation of Trump's likely opponent in the 2020 Presidential General Election would be announced.
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Parse details all you want. The fact remains that DC investigated and spied on Trump. Totally unacceptable.
You have bought into continual propoganda of him being something he is not. In fact some here called him a traitor, ie treason.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Yes, they did... and they did so while they were well aware of Doug Logan's overt pro-Trump bias, and of the conflicts of interest that the hiring of his company would bring to an audit of the Presidential Election voting tabulations in Maricopa County, Arizona. If they wanted this "audit" to be a fact-finding mission, which would be taken seriously by more than just ardent Trump supporters, then they would have hired someone else (and literally anyone else would have been better than the "Cyber Ninjas"). The agenda of Arizona Republicans has nothing to do with uncovering actual fraud. This is a political fundraising exercise... and they get to kiss the feet of dear leader, while they are at it.
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Do you think Biden wasn't expecting to win so he is doing all he can to get impeached? I think no sane person expected a basement campaign would be enough to win. I think he's playing possum with his intellect.

I know how much you think he is the democrats best option. Do you think K'ma'la has the chops for the job? Beto, Swalwell, Cuomo, Newsome, Warren, Sanders, the governor of Michigan, Pete?
 
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Orangeburst said:
Parse details all you want. The fact remains that DC investigated and spied on Trump. Totally unacceptable.
You have bought into continual propoganda of him being something he is not. In fact some here called him a traitor, ie treason.
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It's been recently uncovered that Trump's Justice Department spied on at least five reporters from media outlets that Trump despised. In May, it emerged that Trump's Justice Department had obtained CNN reporter Barbara Starr's e-mail and phone records covering a period of two months between June and July of 2017. In a letter informing her of the secret surveillance, Joe Biden's Department of Justice listed phone numbers for Barbara Starr's Pentagon extension, her home and cell phone numbers, the CNN Pentagon booth phone number, and her work and personal e-mail accounts.

In early May, it was also revealed that three Washington Post reporters who covered the Russia investigation also had their phone records obtained by Trump's DOJ.

That should be considered "totally unacceptable" as well.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It's been recently uncovered that Trump's Justice Department spied on at least five reporters from media outlets that Trump despised. In May, it emerged that Trump's Justice Department had obtained CNN reporter Barbara Starr's e-mail and phone records covering a period of two months between June and July of 2017. In a letter informing her of the secret surveillance, Joe Biden's Department of Justice listed phone numbers for Barbara Starr's Pentagon extension, her home and cell phone numbers, the CNN Pentagon booth phone number, and her work and personal e-mail accounts.

In early May, it was also revealed that three Washington Post reporters who covered the Russia investigation also had their phone records obtained by Trump's DOJ.

That should be considered "totally unacceptable" as well.
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And Obama did as well. It is not an R/D issue. The bureaucracy is the problem and you fail to see it.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Parse details all you want. The fact remains that DC investigated and spied on Trump. Totally unacceptable.
You have bought into continual propoganda of him being something he is not. In fact some here called him a traitor, ie treason.
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Trump had his folks do a little spying too. You may not want to huck moral high ground stones from the balcony of your glass house.

Trump administration spied on top Democrats via Apple
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
There is nothing inspiring about Joe Biden. I have said that many times. He is a career politician, which I don't like. He wouldn't be among my top 20 choices from the Democratic Party to be President. He was the safest choice in 2020 though... and I had no qualms with voting for him over Trump.
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No qualms? …… you had no f’ing sense either
 
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Septic said:
Trump had his folks do a little spying too. You may not want to huck moral high ground stones from the balcony of your glass house.

Trump administration spied on top Democrats via Apple
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Via Apple...lol. Master spies.

If even true, not remotely comparable to the orchestrated campaign to unseat an elected President.

"Although the data did not include messages, images or emails,".. Swalwell was knowingly sleeping with a CCP agent, so they should of gotten it all.
 
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BreatheUT said:
You've lost all credibility admitting how bad Biden is but you voted for him. All credibility.
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How so? Most of the posters on this forum agree that it was "a choice between the lesser of two evils". I've seen that phrase posted so many times on here that it's become a cliche. I'm sure that Trump also received a healthy percentage of votes from conservatives who view him as being less than ideal.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Via Apple...lol. Master spies.

If even true, not remotely comparable to the orchestrated campaign to unseat an elected President.

"Although the data did not include messages, images or emails,".. Swalwell was knowingly sleeping with a CCP agent, so they should of gotten it all.
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Hey man, whatever you need to tell yourself to make you believe your tribe is somehow morally or ethically superior.

Fortunately, the vast majority of voters - tired of the lies, have spoken and have discarded Donny like an empty can of PBR.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
How so? Most of the posters on this forum agree that it was "a choice between the lesser of two evils". I've seen that phrase posted so many times on here that it's become a cliche. I'm sure that Trump also received a healthy percentage of votes from conservatives who view him as being less than ideal.
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If it comes down to a guy you don't like vs a guy that sucks az then you just deal with the guy you don't like and hope for a more qualified candidate. Biden is a historical low achiever. You've admitted yourself he isn't top 20 of who you would choose and that's saying something given all the duds in the democrat party. The guy was a laughing stock the first two primaries and was all but assumed left for dead. Then the establishment started to will him to a win because everyone else was just that bad.

Then covid came along and basically saved the guy running a campaign from the basement, with low energy and very little interest from voters. His rallies were small not because they wanted to control the crowd size but because they knew he couldn't get a bigger crowd so it was an easy sell. Remember he was basically getting cafeteria size crowds before covid.

You don't change a policy to change a policy but that is essentially what this administration is doing and it's bad for the country. They have no answers but to throw money at something and placate people. It appears the Bernie Sanders wing is winning behind the scenes.

You don't have to tell me but you have to admit it to yourself everyday. If the guy was on the UT sidelines as coach we would know our opponents would be laughing at us because he has no idea what's really going on and we would question whose really running this trainwreck. They would say he's doing a good job though because they wouldn't want him fired. Those other coaches are Europe and our adversaries.
 
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