Arizona Election Audit

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BigOrangeTrain said:
Yes he most certainly is. He is the president. He is too blame. Stop with your middle school logic.
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This is a fair sentiment as long as you have been consistent with it.

You tell me ... Were you critical of Trump when he blamed the Obama administration for the lack of coronavirus tests in March of 2020? This happened over 3 years into Trump's presidency.

This was an answer that President Donald Trump gave on March 13, 2020 to a question of whether or not he took any responsibility for the slow rate of coronavirus testing which was taking place in the United States at the time :

"No, I don't take responsibility at all. Because we were given a - a set of circumstances, and we were given rules, regulations and specifications from a different time. It wasn't meant for this kind of - an event with the kind of numbers that we're talking about." - President Donald Trump

If you can be honest with yourself for a moment, the buck never stopped with Trump. He frequently sought to shift blame to Obama, throughout his 4 years in office.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
This is a fair sentiment as long as you have been consistent with it.

You tell me ... Were you critical of Trump when he blamed the Obama administration for the lack of coronavirus tests in March of 2020? This happened over 3 years into Trump's presidency.

This was an answer that President Donald Trump gave on March 13, 2020 to a question of whether or not he took any responsibility for the slow rate of coronavirus testing which was taking place in the United States at the time :

"No, I don't take responsibility at all. Because we were given a - a set of circumstances, and we were given rules, regulations and specifications from a different time. It wasn't meant for this kind of - an event with the kind of numbers that we're talking about." - President Donald Trump

If you can be honest with yourself for a moment, the buck never stopped with Trump. He frequently sought to shift blame to Obama, throughout his 4 years in office.
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Trump shares as much blame as any other president has. Obama blamed Bush for everything. It’s politics dude. Whenever a new president takes office they are always handed some kind of ****show. And to bolster their base, they always deflect the blame.

Trump, Obama, Bush, Biden. They are all essentially the same in that regard. They fail to own up to their screwups. That’s what our glorious two party system is. None buffoon after another passing blame. Every president we have had in modern history is trash. Our political system is trash. It’s just when a Democrat is president, Republicans trash him. When a Republican is president, the Democrats trash him.

Presidents of the USA don’t really care that much about the people in reality.

Also, where in your quote is Trump specifically blaming Obama? I didn’t see a Obama’s name mentioned.
 
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#5,759
Good grief, civics 101. Presidents only get to spend what the 535 morons on the hill tell him he can. All of you blaming past or present Presidents for inflation or deficit spending are aiming your fire in the wrong direction. Geez.
 
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newokie03 said:
Good grief, civics 101. Presidents only get to spend what the 535 morons on the hill tell him he can. All of you blaming past or present Presidents for inflation or deficit spending are aiming your fire in the wrong direction. Geez.
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Isn’t that what the two party system is about? To keep a divide so they keep control?🐸☕️
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Trump shares as much blame as any other president has. Obama blamed Bush for everything. It’s politics dude. Whenever a new president takes office they are always handed some kind of ****show. And to bolster their base, they always deflect the blame.

Trump, Obama, Bush, Biden. They are all essentially the same in that regard. They fail to own up to their screwups. That’s what our glorious two party system is. None buffoon after another passing blame. Every president we have had in modern history is trash. Our political system is trash. It’s just when a Democrat is president, Republicans trash him. When a Republican is president, the Democrats trash him.

Presidents of the USA don’t really care that much about the people in reality.

Also, where in your quote is Trump specifically blaming Obama? I didn’t see a Obama’s name mentioned.
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When Trump said that "we were given rules, regulations and specifications from a different time," that was an obvious reference to his predecessor.

However, Trump left no doubt of that, with this following statement which he made later on in the same press conference :

"The Obama administration made a decision on testing that turned out to be very detrimental to what we're doing, and we undid that decision a few days ago so that the testing can take place in a much more accurate and rapid fashion." - President Donald Trump

For what it's worth, Trump never elaborated on what decision the Obama administration had made, which he had supposedly reversed, consisted of... and once again, this was over 3 years into his presidency. Trump never stopped blaming Obama for anything he could... for all 4 years.
 
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Septic said:
lol what.

I guess we all see what we want to see. Apparently you see a couple of Karens who just wanted to talk to the manager of the hot dog stand on the mall.

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Those things didn't happen because there's video of other times when they weren't happening.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
When Trump said that "we were given rules, regulations and specifications from a different time," that was an obvious reference to his predecessor.

However, Trump left no doubt of that, with this following statement which he made later on in the same press conference :

"The Obama administration made a decision on testing that turned out to be very detrimental to what we're doing, and we undid that decision a few days ago so that the testing can take place in a much more accurate and rapid fashion." - President Donald Trump

For what it's worth, Trump never elaborated on what decision the Obama administration had made, which he had supposedly reversed, consisted of... and once again, this was over 3 years into his presidency. Trump never stopped blaming Obama for anything he could... for all 4 years.
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Fine. And Obama never stopped blaming Bush over 8 years. Don’t you see the point here?
 
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newokie03 said:
Good grief, civics 101. Presidents only get to spend what the 535 morons on the hill tell him he can. All of you blaming past or present Presidents for inflation or deficit spending are aiming your fire in the wrong direction. Geez.
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I would contend pressuring the fed on interest rates could be a problem with inflation, but the fed isn't required to listen to the president.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Your dishonesty knows no shame..Yes, the Trump approved COVID relief package was debatably horrible. Just as Biden's relief package.
Not either one was in the "budget", so get out of here with FY budgets and lack of accountability. Joe is President and is accountable for such whether his fault or not. He certainly is not doing anything to address other than throwing fuel on the fire with his unprecedented $8.5T spending.
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I specifically heard democrats say when Trump was president that everything was his fault and they didn't care what Obama did. Now that they have one of their own as president they still try to find ways to blame Trump. They did this same crap for 8 years with Obama where nothing was his fault. It was always Bush, McConnell, or Republicans during his terms. NOTHING is ever their fault. It's the same old tired game with them.

And now they love George W Bush. The same man they despised for 16 years. That might be one of the media's biggest accomplishments. They got democrats hating Trump so much that they now love Bush.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
CNN trashes Joe on a daily basis and with good reason. The difference is I know Joe sucks and you still believe Trump was a good president.
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Okay. If Joe sucks and you think Trump was a bad president then why not look into third party candidates in 2024? I voted for independent candidates for Senate here in TN last time as well as for the House race in my congressional district. Not that it really changed anything but at least in those two races I was not responsible for voting for either of the two major parties.

The media is also responsible for this democrat/ republican and left/ right paradigm that people end up into. If they were fair in their coverage other outlets wouldn't exist and they would also report fairly and give airtime to third party candidates. Better yet, they would try to get those candidates in on the debates.

The presidential debates should have at least been Trump, Biden, Hawkins, Jorgensen, Buchanan, and even Kanye this last time around.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Okay. If Joe sucks and you think Trump was a bad president then why not look into third party candidates in 2024? I voted for independent candidates for Senate here in TN last time as well as for the House race in my congressional district. Not that it really changed anything but at least in those two races I was not responsible for voting for either of the two major parties.

The media is also responsible for this democrat/ republican and left/ right paradigm that people end up into. If they were fair in their coverage other outlets wouldn't exist and they would also report fairly and give airtime to third party candidates. Better yet, they would try to get those candidates in on the debates.

The presidential debates should have at least been Trump, Biden, Hawkins, Jorgensen, Buchanan, and even Kanye this last time around.
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Glad to hear you didn't embarrass yourself by voting for Marsha Blackburn
 
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DonjoVol said:
I specifically heard democrats say when Trump was president that everything was his fault and they didn't care what Obama did. Now that they have one of their own as president they still try to find ways to blame Trump. They did this same crap for 8 years with Obama where nothing was his fault. It was always Bush, McConnell, or Republicans during his terms. NOTHING is ever their fault. It's the same old tired game with them.

And now they love George W Bush. The same man they despised for 16 years. That might be one of the media's biggest accomplishments. They got democrats hating Trump so much that they now love Bush.
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I liked W as CIC. At least as well or better than the previous 3 I served under
 
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DonjoVol said:
Further proof that there are people on here who can dish it out but can't take it.
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Seems you have a very simplistic communication skill set. It wasn't a defection, it was an assertion of hypocrisy on your part.

And you're free to throw anything you want my way, but try basing it on facts and not some RWN false flags.
 
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So…..now that the evil Democrats have successfully concealed their devious voter fraud operation in Arizona, will this thread convert into the Texas election audit thread?
 
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DonjoVol said:
Okay. If Joe sucks and you think Trump was a bad president then why not look into third party candidates in 2024? I voted for independent candidates for Senate here in TN last time as well as for the House race in my congressional district. Not that it really changed anything but at least in those two races I was not responsible for voting for either of the two major parties.

The media is also responsible for this democrat/ republican and left/ right paradigm that people end up into. If they were fair in their coverage other outlets wouldn't exist and they would also report fairly and give airtime to third party candidates. Better yet, they would try to get those candidates in on the debates.

The presidential debates should have at least been Trump, Biden, Hawkins, Jorgensen, Buchanan, and even Kanye this last time around.
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I agree that the public should get a better look at the 3rd party candidates. The system is rigged, just not in the way people are thinking right now. People don't get to really see the third party candidates at all and the gerrymandering of districts is also a huge problem.
 
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#5,775
My question is will anybody be prosecuted for deleting the files? Is anybody arguing that deleting election files is not a crime?

 
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