Arkansas over UK....not good for UT

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bleedingTNorange said:
Because with our RPI and SOS you won't find a team to have ever been left out with similar numbers, it's really that simple.
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You don't think a team with a 51 RPI has been left out?

Interesting you keep pointing out the RPI AND SOS. You realize that SOS is an integral part of the RPI, right? It's not like you look at them as separate from each other. It's not like you look at UT vs Arky and say "well, UT is 51 and Arky is 58 but UT also has a much better SOS". That's already factored into the RPI.
 
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NYC Vol said:
You don't think a team with a 51 RPI has been left out?

Interesting you keep pointing out the RPI AND SOS. You realize that SOS is an integral part of the RPI, right? It's not like you look at them as separate from each other. It's not like you look at UT vs Arky and say "well, UT is 51 and Arky is 58 but UT also has a much better SOS". That's already factored into the RPI.
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No, since the field expanded to 68 teams I believe the highest RPI high major to be left out was Kentucky at 56 last year.

That's not the lone factor in the RPI, which I'm sure you know. However, the committee does look at both separately, so I mentioned them separately.

If UT and Ark were both to win out Tennessee would have the better resume.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
When the committee looks at it they look at it present time, not at the time of the win, why would I do differently.

You see that RPI gain yesterday?
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Yes but using UVA RPI compared to UK immediately after the game is a flawed perspective. Obviously UK's going to drop they just lost. Arkansas's gain is Arkansas's loss.

A win over UF, though not likely and we're talking about UK above UVA again.

Given UK's SOS blows UVA out of the water despite playing 18 games in the crap that is the SEC.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
Yes but using UVA RPI compared to UK immediately after the game is a flawed perspective. Obviously UK's going to drop they just lost. Arkansas's gain is Arkansas's loss.

A win over UF, though not likely and we're talking about UK above UVA again.

Given UK's SOS blows UVA out of the water despite playing 18 games in the crap that is the SEC.
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A Virginia win over Cuse and Virginias goes up as well. Not diminishing Arkansas win by any means, at Rupp is much more impressive than ours at TBA.

However as I said, both teams win out and our resume is better than theirs. Our RPI will continue to climb, even playing lower RPI teams as you saw yesterday.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
A Virginia win over Cuse and Virginias goes up as well. Not diminishing Arkansas win by any means, at Rupp is much more impressive than ours at TBA.

However as I said, both teams win out and our resume is better than theirs. Our RPI will continue to climb, even playing lower RPI teams as you saw yesterday.
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It amazes me UVA is as high as they are, they've lost almost every significant game they've played. Fortunately for them they have no bad losses.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
It amazes me UVA is as high as they are, they've lost almost every significant game they've played. Fortunately for them they have no bad losses.
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That's all you gotta do. Imagine if our only losses were to 1 in the B4A, @Wichita, UFx2 and at UK.

We would be 23-5 and probably ranked somewhere around where Virginia is.
 
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Toevol said:
I just don't see any way the SEC gets more than three teams in and Arky is on a run now. Imo, they are the third team as long as they win out.

We are toast.

On another note....good grief Bobby Knight is really losing it. Trying to act like he knows if a free throw is going in just by the release of the shooter? Sad to see him reduced to being the announcer that he is.
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I heard him say it was a two possession game when Arkansas was up by 3.
 
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No clue how Lunardi has Oregon out. Currently 19-8, 32nd in the RPI and SOS in the lower 30s. Oh, and they beat UCLA at UCLA tonight, meaning they're going to finish at a likely 21-9 with only the game @Arizona to close the season being a likely loss. But Arizona is so good, losing at their place likely won't lower their RPI at all.
 
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#61
Any poster in here who thinks there's some kind of "cap" on the number of SEC teams they'll select needs to stop talking about basketball in general.
 
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And once again we are having to see what everyone else is doing and hope conzo *****es enough to get us in the NCAA.
 
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Yeah last night was not good. Arkansas is now neck and neck with us and should win out. Might come down to who outperforms in the SECT.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
No, since the field expanded to 68 teams I believe the highest RPI high major to be left out was Kentucky at 56 last year.

That's not the lone factor in the RPI, which I'm sure you know. However, the committee does look at both separately, so I mentioned them separately.

If UT and Ark were both to win out Tennessee would have the better resume.
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I get the idea you want to keep the coach we have. You must love mediocrity.
 
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As long as we beat mizzou, I think this just means Arky and UT both get in. I think it was worse for mizzou than it was us. I still think if UT wins out and reaches the semifinals of the SEC tourney, they make the dance.
 
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Bruce Wayne said:
As long as we beat mizzou, I think this just means Arky and UT both get in. I think it was worse for mizzou than it was us. I still think if UT wins out and reaches the semifinals of the SEC tourney, they make the dance.
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Fading that Auburn game might be harder than Mizzou. IMO But one thing is certain about predicting what teams from the SEC will do this year.(other than Florida) And that is nothing is for certain. Ark could lose two of their last 3 just as easy as winning out.

Will be interesting tho
 
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We have to win out to get in. Arkansas doesn't affect us at all. If we lose they might get in ahead of us if they win out, but that is the only way we are affected by them.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
We have to win out to get in. Arkansas doesn't affect us at all. If we lose they might get in ahead of us if they win out, but that is the only way we are affected by them.
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Yup. If anything it makes our win over them more impressive.
 
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volfanstuckinga said:
If the SEC is going to get only 3 bids....this win looks REALLY good for the Hogs and puts us in a worse situation We need teams we are even with to lose not collect major wins on the road against ranked teams.
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They beat UK twice. Lost to Mizzou twice, lost to A&M, lost to UGA, lost to LSU, lost to us. Their overall record is better but that's because of the 7 game win streak they had against a bunch of nobodies from Dec 3-Jan 4 with the exception of maybe Clemson. At that point we were 9-4 after playing Xavier twice, Virginia, UTEP(who keep winning albeit vs a schedule that isn't great) Wake Forest, NC ST and Wichita St. We beat Arkansas. There's no way they are ahead of us. If they cant play on the road that's their problem, but they had a joke for an OOC schedule.
 
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The SEC has a valid rep of not being a strong conference, and the selection committee will be well aware of that rep. The one thing that might help this pretender of a team is that I hear that the mid-majors have not been very strong this year, which could reduce the number getting in and help middling big-conference teams like UT.
 
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Goldencuonzohut said:
What determines tie beakers for like the sec standings?
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2 Way Tie
- head to head matchups
- win / loss record from 1 and goes all the way down the line
- coin flip by Slive.

3 or more Way Tie
- best winning % of teams tied
- best winning % against 1 and goes all the way down the line.
- if two teams are tied, coin flip
- if all three remain, random draw.

(I think lol)
 
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