Armani Moore working with 1st team today at practice in place

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Josh Richardson. That sounds good but he's a possible starter but couldn't see the floor in a loss?? Maybe put him in for a spark against NC State.
 
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So can Armani score? We know Josh can't. That's really all that matters. This team is scoring challenged.
 
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Vols4us said:
So can Armani score? We know Josh can't. That's really all that matters. This team is scoring challenged.
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Armani and Josh are somewhat interchangeable imo. Last game the point guards shot 11 times - never found a shot he didn't like 22 times and Josh 2 times. Armani is not a great shooter - but hey our guards shot 20% from the field last game and that includes their layups - so nothing to lose there. Josh was 1 for 2 by the way. Armani is a hustler and a scrapper and will score 4 to 6 pts a game just by hustling and getting rebounds and other trash. I love Armani's game but most recent games he hasn't even played. Armani does need more minutes - but that's not going to fix the problems this team has imo.
 
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Armani has less of an offensive game than josh IMO, really don't get the move at all. The issues defensively have been both bigs struggling so switching to 4 guard would make sense. Offensively spacing has been an issue so once again 4 guard would make sense. Martin said they'll look to press more and sooner, but to do that Maymon will have to come out earlier to make sure they don't fatigue him early.

It would seem the obvious move is sub Maymon for a 4 guard look, not take out a wing for a wing no?
 
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And why not more 4 guard with the 2PG set we were teased with earlier this year?

Thompson
Barton
McRae
Richardson/Davis/Moore/Hubbs
Stokes
 
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and Moore got zero minutes last game. I feel bad for Jrich. He's a slasher that isn't given the opportunity and spacing to attack the rim. Kid could get to the ft line a lot and shoot over 70%. He can go left, right and stop for a little midrange. The 3 ball is just added but has taken away from what he is as a player. Him running the wing on a fast break, then on the ball on a pressing team would get him involved in games and accentuate his talent, rather than hold it back and end up in a benching. He's basically not the Josh Richardson we all have seen and need and who's fault is that?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
You called for Armani over Josh? I thought you were driving for less Maymon, and wanting more 4 guard?
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To be honest I just read the Armani works with the first team. Lol You are right that's what I've been wanting. Actually DT, Jordy, Josh, Armani, and Stokes is what I prefer. Though after our last zombie walk, I've just been saying he needs minutes period. If nothing else just to try and jump start some energy.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Armani has less of an offensive game than josh IMO, really don't get the move at all. The issues defensively have been both bigs struggling so switching to 4 guard would make sense. Offensively spacing has been an issue so once again 4 guard would make sense. Martin said they'll look to press more and sooner, but to do that Maymon will have to come out earlier to make sure they don't fatigue him early.

It would seem the obvious move is sub Maymon for a 4 guard look, not take out a wing for a wing no?
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If we start pressing I definitely prefer the lineup I mentioned.
 
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BadJerry20 said:
To be honest I just read the Armani works with the first team. Lol You are right that's what I've been wanting. Actually DT, Jordy, Josh, Armani, and Stokes is what I prefer. Though after our last zombie walk, I've just been saying he needs minutes period. If nothing else just to try and jump start some energy.
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good point we def. need an energy guy on the floor
 
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MoB_MoVols said:
good point we def. need an energy guy on the floor
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One guy is all energy, all the time how he didn't get in the last game is beyond me. I can't stand watching guys when they look like they don't care, and the whole team was checked out last game.
 
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I wouldn't start Armani, but he's darn better than to only be seeing mop up duty. I'd love to see Armani used in more four guard sets.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
I may be going out on a limb here but I believe Sparty thinks spacing may be a problem.
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i'm psychotic about it. I know. Can't help it. Watching them play about makes my head explode and it's mainly because I can't believe some of the things I see that show complete lack of instinct and coaching on the offensive end. Mistakes happen. Bad coaching decisions happen. Bad subs happen when you go with your gut sometimes. Constant lack of basketball 101 spacing concepts at this level irks the living **** out of me. Waking up in the middle of the night to drink what I think is lemonade but I find out 3 gulps in is margarita irks me a little less.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Armani has less of an offensive game than josh IMO, really don't get the move at all. The issues defensively have been both bigs struggling so switching to 4 guard would make sense. Offensively spacing has been an issue so once again 4 guard would make sense. Martin said they'll look to press more and sooner, but to do that Maymon will have to come out earlier to make sure they don't fatigue him early.

It would seem the obvious move is sub Maymon for a 4 guard look, not take out a wing for a wing no?
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How will removing the highest percentage shooter and third scorer from the floor improve offense?
Wouldn't it make more sense to just fix the spacing issues? The bigger problem is defense anyway.
 
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Three years in and the team still does not get basic concepts of offensive basketball and can only play man to man D. They can't make lay-ups and put-backs consistently. They are mediocre to bad at the FT line. The front line is height challenged and it shows.

In the fourth year, if Zo gets it, he has recruited a true, living, breathing PG. There may even be a real center. But after Jordy leaves there is no evidence of scorers on the roster. Hubbs has proven nothing so far. Stokes, as limited as he is, will be gone. Thompson shows promise, but is a combo. So there will be no real offense again. This will not end well.
 
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Vols4us said:
Three years in and the team still does not get basic concepts of offensive basketball and can only play man to man D. They can't make lay-ups and put-backs consistently. They are mediocre to bad at the FT line. The front line is height challenged and it shows.

In the fourth year, if Zo gets it, he has recruited a true, living, breathing PG. There may even be a real center. But after Jordy leaves there is no evidence of scorers on the roster. Hubbs has proven nothing so far. Stokes, as limited as he is, will be gone. Thompson shows promise, but is a combo. So there will be no real offense again. This will not end well.
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Well written, you would think the Assts. could help. This is just the same old, same old, he is either a hard headed coach or can't think on his feet. I have pulled for him until now, but with his talent it's apparent he's not in the right place.
 
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calban said:
How will removing the highest percentage shooter and third scorer from the floor improve offense?
Wouldn't it make more sense to just fix the spacing issues? The bigger problem is defense anyway.
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I think defensively Zo feels like they're at a disadvantage when Maymon and Stokes are both out there. Also made it sound as though they would like to press and speed it up more, but that he can't do that as effectively as need be if Maymon and Stokes are both out there.

I'm not saying it's the right or wrong thing,
I'm just trying to put 2 & 2 together and see if it adds up. To me it would seem best case is you find a way to make your offense and defense both effective with Maymon & Stokes out there. To me Maymon seems to be rounding into form and had probably his best game of the year against Nc State, outplaying everyone else on the team.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I think defensively Zo feels like they're at a disadvantage when Maymon and Stokes are both out there. Also made it sound as though they would like to press and speed it up more, but that he can't do that as effectively as need be if Maymon and Stokes are both out there.

I'm not saying it's the right or wrong thing,
I'm just trying to put 2 & 2 together and see if it adds up. To me it would seem best case is you find a way to make your offense and defense both effective with Maymon & Stokes out there. To me Maymon seems to be rounding into form and had probably his best game of the year against Nc State, outplaying everyone else on the team.
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Well put.
I do think Maymon is getting closer to game form. Hardest worker even when he hasn't been.
Still don't see us beating VA.
 
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calban said:
Well put.
I do think Maymon is getting closer to game form. Hardest worker even when he hasn't been.
Still don't see us beating VA.
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I'm agreeing with what people were wanting earlier, more 4 guard. Defense is an issue, but maybe the press creates a couple turnovers which will help our defense. Obviously something needs to change, ideally the offensive spacing and defense get figured out with our usual starting 5, but how long can we wait before trying something new?

The aggravating part is we have seen those 5 play halves of great basketball. They just haven't put together a full game offensively and defensively, Wake was probably our best game to date.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I'm agreeing with what people were wanting earlier, more 4 guard. Defense is an issue, but maybe the press creates a couple turnovers which will help our defense. Obviously something needs to change, ideally the offensive spacing and defense get figured out with our usual starting 5, but how long can we wait before trying something new?

The aggravating part is we have seen those 5 play halves of great basketball. They just haven't put together a full game offensively and defensively, Wake was probably our best game to date.
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Agree. And I've been screaming, "Try something else."
So not complaining, just asking for some input on how it will help.
You did good explaining. thanks.
 
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