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#26
#26
7thgroupvolfan said:
Your freedom was bought by blood. I wish i lived in the fairytale land you live in. It will need to be bought again, make no mistake. If not you, your children. I sh!t you not.
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It needs to be bought again, today. Preferably without the blood.
 
#27
#27
nbakerld said:
I beg to differ. If you were in a position to pay a price to save your own life, at what point does the price become so high that you won't put yourself/family in debt (assuming you can't declare bankruptcy)?

Are you going to die, or saddle the next 5 generations of your posterity with $10 million in debt?

What about me? If you could pay $100 to save my life, would you do it? $1000?

Life has a price that we can all put a number on. We just refuse to face the notion because it feels so soul-less.
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People will pay any amount to prolong their life as long as the quality of life still exists.

How much would you take for your life or the life of your wife or child? If someone gave you a billion dollars would you let them kill your son or daughter?
 
#29
#29
nbakerld said:
It needs to be bought again, today. Preferably without the blood.
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Unfortunately, it's not your choice. This country will have to fight again for it's survival. I wonder if we've become so pussyfied that it'll all end. God I hope not, but hopefully there's not many people like you.

Maybe when faced with survival you'll pick up a gun. I doubt it though.
 
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#30
#30
GAVol said:
Hey look . . . It's me disagreeing with you again about being able to quantify everything under the sun.
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I think it's a thought exercise that has value. There's no "true" answer, it's just your perception. You can and would put a price on life if the need arose.

There is a need to quantify the value of a life. How else would we settle wrongful death claims?
 
#31
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7thgroupvolfan said:
Unfortunately, it's not your choice. This country will have to fight again for it's survival. I wonder if we've become so pussyfied that it'll all end. God I hope not, but hopefully there's not many people like you.

Maybe when faced with survival you'll pick up a gun. I doubt it though.
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Considering we have hundreds of military bases, by far the largest defense budget, and we are willing to fight pretty much anywhere at the drop of a hat, I'd say that shouldn't be a concern.
 
#32
#32
tri_vol said:
People will pay any amount to prolong their life as long as the quality of life still exists.

How much would you take for your life or the life of your wife or child? If someone gave you a billion dollars would you let them kill your son or daughter?
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No, and that's not the same thing, IMO. I think that question is a lot different than "how much would you pay to save a life?"
 
#33
#33
nbakerld said:
I think it's a thought exercise that has value. There's no "true" answer, it's just your perception. You can and would put a price on life if the need arose.
There is a need to quantify the value of a life. How else would we settle wrongful death claims?
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You would never understand my world and I hope that I never live in yours. I'll keep fighting and you keep.....whatever it is that you do.
 
#34
#34
nbakerld said:
I think it's a thought exercise that has value. There's no "true" answer, it's just your perception. You can and would put a price on life if the need arose.

There is a need to quantify the value of a life. How else would we settle wrongful death claims?
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Gonna go out on a limb and say almost every plantiff in a wrongful death suit would trade any amount of money to have their loved one back. Life has no price.
 
#35
#35
nbakerld said:
Considering we have hundreds of military bases, by far the largest defense budget, and we are willing to fight pretty much anywhere at the drop of a hat, I'd say that shouldn't be a concern.
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If you were making the military decisions where would we be?
 
#38
#38
nbakerld said:
No, and that's not the same thing, IMO. I think that question is a lot different than "how much would you pay to save a life?"
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How is that not the same or does it not fit your narrow argument?
 
#39
#39
tri_vol said:
How is that not the same or does it not fit your narrow argument?
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Because I'm not talking about accepting a price. I'm talking about paying a price. It's not that it doesn't fit my argument, it's that it doesn't factor in.

Everybody in this board will say they wouldn't accept all the money in the world for the life of their child. I'm trying to get you to admit there are instances where you can put a price on life. If you don't do it under this circumstance, so what? There are other circumstances where you will, and that is my point.
 
#40
#40
nbakerld said:
So how would you settle a wrongful death? It's not a rhetorical question.
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Really? The payment to the family members for the death of their loved one that died for this couintry should be a hell of alot more than it is.

That's my problem. The entertainers get payed all these millions and ***** about health care. What about the health care of the soldiers that allowed you get that money. Why are the soldiers benefits always getting cut and f'ked with, yet so much more is asked of us?
 
#42
#42
7thgroupvolfan said:
Really? The payment to the family members for the death of their loved one that died for this couintry should be a hell of alot more than it is.

That's my problem. The entertainers get payed all these millions and ***** about health care. What about the health care of the soldiers that allowed you get that money. Why are the soldiers benefits always getting cut and f'ked with, yet so much more is asked of us?
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Did you mean to quote me? This doesn't address my post at all.
 
#47
#47
7thgroupvolfan said:
The best defense is something that you will never hear of. Welcome to my world.
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Any plan that involves fiscal solvency is a better defense plan than the one we have. If we are bankrupt in 2030, it won't matter how dominant our military was in 2012.
 
#48
#48
nbakerld said:
Because I'm not talking about accepting a price. I'm talking about paying a price. It's not that it doesn't fit my argument, it's that it doesn't factor in.

Everybody in this board will say they wouldn't accept all the money in the world for the life of their child. I'm trying to get you to admit there are instances where you can put a price on life. If you don't do it under this circumstance, so what? There are other circumstances where you will, and that is my point.
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there is no price i wouldn't pay to have your life ended. so you are truly priceless. is that what you want me to admit?
 
#49
#49
nbakerld said:
Any plan that involves fiscal solvency is a better defense plan than the one we have. If we are bankrupt in 2030, it won't matter how dominant our military was in 2012.
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If you really believe that than you really are dumb. The world's economy is hurting right now. We are still better off than anyone else.
 
#50
#50
7thgroupvolfan said:
If you really believe that than you really are dumb. The world's economy is hurting right now. We are still better off than anyone else.
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This isn't about a recession, this is about a budget. At least I'm smart enough to get that much.
 
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