Athlon Sports officially ranks the SEC Coaches

#51
#51
bamawriter said:
I can only assume that you're 20 years old or younger. LSU was garbage before Saban got there. One could easily argue that Miles has had success at LSU because Saban put them back on the map.

Spurrier has won games at USC, but he's only been to one SECCG since he's been in Columbia, and they got their doors blown off in that game. Saban turned an also-ran LSU team into a consistent national title contender, and took a Bama team coming off it's worst run since the mid-50s and has won 2 national championships.

Your list is simply stupid.
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I knew my list would be unpopular with Bama fans, but it is extremely hard to deny the impact that Spurrier has had on the SEC at UF and USC. Spurrier is SEC Football, he will go down in history as one of the all time greatest players and coaches the league has ever seen. Comparing LSU to USC is apples to oranges. LSU entered the 2011 season with 721 victories, the 12th most in NCAA history, and the 4th most of any SEC team, behind only Alabama (792), Tennessee (783), and Georgia (731). That doesn't sound like garbage to me.

USC hasn't ever won anything ever, except for two seasons ago Spurrier won the SEC East. And, yes they got drilled in that game by Auburn, but earlier that same season, Spurrier took a inferior USC team and beat the defending #1 ranked Champs (Bama and Saban) by two touchdowns.

I am not denying that Saban rebuilt LSU, but LSU has a rich tradition in the SEC with numerous titles, and a NC prior to Saban's arrival. LSU expects to win, and they have a culture of winning that was in place long before Saban got there. It is easy to win at LSU.

UF had never, ever won even a championship, until Spurrier. Spurrier made UF Football what it is today, a place where it is easy to win games. Saban has never built a program from the ground up, and won the school's first ever league championship, Spurrier did just that at UF.

I found some facts regarding Spurrier on his Wikipedia article:

"Spurrier and his Gators accomplished a number of memorable feats during his twelve seasons in Gainesville (1990–2001), including:
Won one national championship (1996), and played for another (1995).[3]
Won six SEC championships (1991, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 2000).[3]
Named SEC Coach of the Year five times (1990, 1991, 1994, 1995, 1996).[3]
First Heisman Trophy-winner to coach a Heisman Trophy-winner (Danny Wuerffel).[3]
Won at least nine games in each of his twelve seasons, one of only three coaches in major college history to do so.[3]
Averaged more than ten wins per season.[3]
Ranked in the final top fifteen in each of his twelve seasons, including nine top-ten finishes, five final top-five rankings, and an average end-of-season ranking of 6.8.[3]
Appeared among the top twenty-five teams in the weekly polls 202 of a possible 203 weeks, including each of his last 202 consecutive weeks. The Gators were ranked number one in the polls twenty-nine times, appeared among the top five team for 117 weeks, and among the nation's top ten teams for 179 weeks.[3]
Appeared in a bowl game in each of his last eleven seasons, one of only five schools to do so during the same time period.[3]
Only coach in major college history to win as many as 120 games in his first twelve seasons at one school (an overall record of 122–27–1, with a winning percentage of .8167).[3]
One of only two coaches in major college history to win ten or more games in six consecutive seasons (1993–1998).[3]
Only college football team to score at least 500 points, including bowl games, for four consecutive years (1993–1996) since the NCAA began keeping statistics in 1937.[3]"

"Spurrier's Gamecocks won the SEC Eastern Division championship for the first time in school history in 2010, clinching the title with a convincing 36–14 victory at "The Swamp" over the Florida Gators. It was a season of firsts for South Carolina, including their first win at Florida, first win over a No. 1 ranked team (Alabama), and first time sweeping the November "Orange Crush" portion of their schedule with wins over Tennessee, Florida and Clemson. Following a 9–3 regular season and an appearance in the SEC championship game, Spurrier was named SEC Coach of the Year by his fellow coaches in the conference.[58] The Gamecocks had another strong season in 2011, beating every opponent in the division. However, a loss to Arkansas cost them a return appearance in the SEC title game. With a 34-13 rout of Clemson, the Gamecocks won 10 games for only the second time in their 119-year football history. In the 2012 Capital One Bowl, the Gamecocks dispatched Nebraska 30-13 to win their school-record 11th game. They also finished eighth in the AP Poll and ninth in the Coaches' Poll--their first top-ten finishes in a major media poll in school history."

I guess facts get in the way when you have Crimson colored glasses.
 
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#56
#56
gunner said:
I knew my list would be unpopular with Bama fans, but it is extremely hard to deny the impact that Spurrier has had on the SEC at UF and USC. Spurrier is SEC Football, he will go down in history as one of the all time greatest players and coaches the league has ever seen. Comparing LSU to USC is apples to oranges. LSU entered the 2011 season with 721 victories, the 12th most in NCAA history, and the 4th most of any SEC team, behind only Alabama (792), Tennessee (783), and Georgia (731). That doesn't sound like garbage to me.

USC hasn't ever won anything ever, except for two seasons ago Spurrier won the SEC East. And, yes they got drilled in that game by Auburn, but earlier that same season, Spurrier took a inferior USC team and beat the defending #1 ranked Champs (Bama and Saban) by two touchdowns.

I am not denying that Saban rebuilt LSU, but LSU has a rich tradition in the SEC with numerous titles, and a NC prior to Saban's arrival. LSU expects to win, and they have a culture of winning that was in place long before Saban got there. It is easy to win at LSU.

UF had never, ever won even a championship, until Spurrier. Spurrier made UF Football what it is today, a place where it is easy to win games. Saban has never built a program from the ground up, and won the school's first ever league championship, Spurrier did just that at UF.

I found some facts regarding Spurrier on his Wikipedia article:

"Spurrier and his Gators accomplished a number of memorable feats during his twelve seasons in Gainesville (1990–2001), including:
Won one national championship (1996), and played for another (1995).[3]
Won six SEC championships (1991, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 2000).[3]
Named SEC Coach of the Year five times (1990, 1991, 1994, 1995, 1996).[3]
First Heisman Trophy-winner to coach a Heisman Trophy-winner (Danny Wuerffel).[3]
Won at least nine games in each of his twelve seasons, one of only three coaches in major college history to do so.[3]
Averaged more than ten wins per season.[3]
Ranked in the final top fifteen in each of his twelve seasons, including nine top-ten finishes, five final top-five rankings, and an average end-of-season ranking of 6.8.[3]
Appeared among the top twenty-five teams in the weekly polls 202 of a possible 203 weeks, including each of his last 202 consecutive weeks. The Gators were ranked number one in the polls twenty-nine times, appeared among the top five team for 117 weeks, and among the nation's top ten teams for 179 weeks.[3]
Appeared in a bowl game in each of his last eleven seasons, one of only five schools to do so during the same time period.[3]
Only coach in major college history to win as many as 120 games in his first twelve seasons at one school (an overall record of 122–27–1, with a winning percentage of .8167).[3]
One of only two coaches in major college history to win ten or more games in six consecutive seasons (1993–1998).[3]
Only college football team to score at least 500 points, including bowl games, for four consecutive years (1993–1996) since the NCAA began keeping statistics in 1937.[3]"

"Spurrier's Gamecocks won the SEC Eastern Division championship for the first time in school history in 2010, clinching the title with a convincing 36–14 victory at "The Swamp" over the Florida Gators. It was a season of firsts for South Carolina, including their first win at Florida, first win over a No. 1 ranked team (Alabama), and first time sweeping the November "Orange Crush" portion of their schedule with wins over Tennessee, Florida and Clemson. Following a 9–3 regular season and an appearance in the SEC championship game, Spurrier was named SEC Coach of the Year by his fellow coaches in the conference.[58] The Gamecocks had another strong season in 2011, beating every opponent in the division. However, a loss to Arkansas cost them a return appearance in the SEC title game. With a 34-13 rout of Clemson, the Gamecocks won 10 games for only the second time in their 119-year football history. In the 2012 Capital One Bowl, the Gamecocks dispatched Nebraska 30-13 to win their school-record 11th game. They also finished eighth in the AP Poll and ninth in the Coaches' Poll--their first top-ten finishes in a major media poll in school history."

I guess facts get in the way when you have Crimson colored glasses.
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Spurrier has gaudy stats without any hardware. It would be like you going to the prom in a fancy dress without a date.
 
#61
#61
Freeze should be ahead of Dooley. He's done more in one year of FBS coaching than Dooley has in five.

My list:

1) Saban
2) Spurrier
3) Miles
4) Richt
5) Chizik
6) Pinkel
7) Mullen
8) Franklin
9) Sumlin
10) Muschamp
11) Freeze
12 A/B) Dooley and Phillips
14) Johnson
 
#62
#62
zjcvols said:
Freeze should be ahead of Dooley. He's done more in one year of FBS coaching than Dooley has in five.

My list:

1) Saban
2) Spurrier
3) Miles
4) Richt
5) Chizik
6) Pinkel
7) Mullen
8) Franklin
9) Sumlin
10) Muschamp
11) Freeze
12) Dooley
13) Johnson
14. Phillips
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fyp
 
#63
#63
zjcvols said:
Freeze should be ahead of Dooley. He's done more in one year of FBS coaching than Dooley has in five.

My list:

1) Saban
2) Spurrier
3) Miles
4) Richt
5) Chizik
6) Pinkel
7) Mullen
8) Franklin
9) Sumlin
10) Muschamp
11) Freeze
12 A/B) Dooley and Phillips
14) Johnson
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I dont remember Freeze having to play the #1, #2, #3, #10, #25 teams in his season at Arky State
 
#64
#64
CountVolcula said:
I dont remember Freeze having to play the #1, #2, #3, #10, #25 teams in his season at Arky State
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All I know about Freeze is from the book about Orgeron.

He has no credible reason to be ahead of Dooley. Dooley's decent recruiting puts him out of the cellar.
 
#67
#67
Kurtastrophe said:
All I know about Freeze is from the book about Orgeron.

He has no credible reason to be ahead of Dooley. Dooley's decent recruiting puts him out of the cellar.
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I would not be surprised to see him do some shady dealings at Ole Miss

He was knee deep in the Oher deal
 
#68
#68
TuskALoosa said:
Spurrier has gaudy stats without any hardware. It would be like you going to the prom in a fancy dress without a date.
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Hardware? What do you call six SEC Championships? In my opinion the SEC Championship Football Trophy is the best championship trophy on the planet.
 
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#69
#69
Billy Costigan said:
It's not about records it's about who the best coaches are.

The list is done by professionals and it is accurate.
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You are mostly correct, but more specifically, it's not about the best program that is where most go wrong on this topic.

Bama easily has the best program right now in the SEC followed by LSU, and that is largely because of the their coaches. USC under Spurrier is an up and coming program in the SEC, but not the best.

Spurrier is the best coach in the SEC, Saban is the head coach at a program that is currently the best program in the SEC. There is a difference.
 
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