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volfan6782 said:
I agree he should be a shoe in for a first ballot but some of the voters think being a first ballot guy is a sacred thing and don't vote for guys just because they think it should only happen in cases they see fit. Chipper's #3 all time in homeruns by a switch hitter trailing only Mickey Mantle and Eddie Murray, that alone should get him in on the first ballot.
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It's a crime the way some writers power trip with their HOF ballot.

Still, we're coming up on what should be a pretty amazing run for the Braves with Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Cox and Chipper all getting in.
 
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GAVol said:
It's a crime the way some writers power trip with their HOF ballot.

Still, we're coming up on what should be a pretty amazing run for the Braves with Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Cox and Chipper all getting in.
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Most definetly will be a great run for the Braves in the Hall. If the stars align hopefully Maddux, Smoltz, and Glavine could go in together.
 
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Maddux- 2013
Glavine- 2014
Smoltz- 2015
Cox- 2016
Jones- 2017

Five straight years of Brave being inducted.
 
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Dbake005 said:
Crazy y'all didn't win more than 1
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The pie chart would look something like this:

60% -- The postseason is a crapshoot because baseball is a more fundamentally random game than other sports
20% -- Bobby Cox was not great at making the tactical and roster adjustments that the every-game-is-critical postseason requires
20% -- The overinvestment in starting pitching guaranteed a great regular season but meant that the lineup and especially the bench always had some gaping holes
 
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Vercingetorix said:
The pie chart would look something like this:

60% -- The postseason is a crapshoot because baseball is a more fundamentally random game than other sports
20% -- Bobby Cox was not great at making the tactical and roster adjustments that the every-game-is-critical postseason requires
20% -- The overinvestment in starting pitching guaranteed a great regular season but meant that the lineup and especially the bench always had some gaping holes
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That about covers it.
 
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When you say he's arguably the best switch hitter of this generation..who's going to argue? How many years make up a generation?
 
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Vercingetorix said:
The pie chart would look something like this:

60% -- The postseason is a crapshoot because baseball is a more fundamentally random game than other sports
20% -- Bobby Cox was not great at making the tactical and roster adjustments that the every-game-is-critical postseason requires
20% -- The overinvestment in starting pitching guaranteed a great regular season but meant that the lineup and especially the bench always had some gaping holes
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Prettttttty much.

I would almost go 80% the postseason is a crapshoot and 10% the other two.

Wasn't meaning to be a pain in the ass saying the 1 world series thing. Just meant to recognize how dominant those teams were... which will become that much more clear when they litter the hall of fame here soon. I loved the Braves when I was younger, as most kids in the south grew up doing.
 
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In hindsight, the only World Series that really ever bothered me was 1991. Any stadium in MLB except the Metrodome and the Braves win.
 
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2 things that happened in the 90's that totally get my goat:

Kent Hrbek pulling Gant's foot off the bag.

Eric Gregg's strike zone in Game 5 of the '97 NLCS.
 
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Dbake005 said:
Prettttttty much.

I would almost go 80% the postseason is a crapshoot and 10% the other two. .
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I definitely think that an organizational hubris set in because of the rotation, and that that exacerbated baseball's natural tendency toward .500 in any short group of games. The Braves were always willing to go into the postseason with a great rotation, a few good hitters, and a bunch of spare parts. While that does just about guarantee success over time in the regular season, it leaves you vulnerable in the postseason, as A) the difference between your great rotation and their good rotation is offset now by the fact that you've got more mediocre hitters up and down the lineup than they do, and B) your team's greatest strength is irrelevant in most games that are close in the late innings.

Obviously the randomness of baseball was most of it. Change one play in 91 and one play in 96 and the Braves probably win 3 titles and nobody ever talks about it. But I don't think that absolves Schuerholz and Cox for failing to recognize the flaws in their approach. Having Maddux and Glavine and Smoltz papered over a lot.
 
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