Atlanta Braves Thread - Francisco Cabrera edition

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All I'm saying is that if he was one of the three guys, then it's pretty weird that the Chattanooga paper wrote a glowing article about him and how hard he worked for the UT offer and didn't mention anything, even obliquely, about a troubled past. I'm gonna wait till I see something even remotely credible about it before I assume he was one of them.

If so, then obviously we had no business offering him to begin with. And it would be a massive failure by our staff not to figure that out.
 
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YankeeVol said:
I believe a sleeping giant has been awoken
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I think there are some reasons to be legit freaked out by Georgia killing it on the trail and getting so much attention, as I think the obsessive coverage and feedback loop of crootin makes Rich Get Richer perhaps truer than ever.

But it wasn't sleeping.
 
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Thinking about doing fantasy baseball this year. Who has the best free leagues? I'm assuming there's an app for these things now.

Man I feel like an old geezer asking these questions. Truth is I haven't done fantasy league stuff since around 2000.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Guys - what am I missing with Jason Heyward? Why does he make the money he makes?

I'm listening to the talking chop podcast and they are talking about how he is was not a bust and I can see where they are saying that. He's still a good player but not what he was hoped to be. Like Scotty Hopson. Hopson was a really nice player but never lived up to his McD's AA hype.

But Heyward is not anything special and they are kinda defending his contract which has to be one of the worst in baseball. The guy is 6'5" 240 plays right field and has been in the league 8 years and he's got 115 homeruns. Career BA is .262.

He's not terrible but he's not even an all star. I mean he's Nick Markakis really.

The guys on the talking chop webcast keep talking about him having a 6wAR but I'm just thinking to myself that just makes me question that stat even more than I already do.

What am I missing?
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Appreciate the feedback on this the other day. Today at lunch I decided I'd take a slightly above average player from yesteryear and compare him to Heyward. I still think this guy is the most overpaid and overrated player in the game.

Jeff Blauser – 162 game averages
Runs – 80
H/AB – 137/521
2B – 25
3B – 4
HR – 14
RBI – 59
SB – 7
SO – 108
Batting average- .262

Jason Heyward – 162 game averages
Runs – 83
H/AB – 152/583
2B – 29
3B – 4
HR – 17
RBI – 68
SB – 15
SO – 117
Batting average– .262

Anyway, I know most won't care but I just thought I'd share. IDK why I'm fixated on him. I guess I'm just blown away by the contract. Also, like someone else said his height makes his numbers seem even worse.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Thinking about doing fantasy baseball this year. Who has the best free leagues? I'm assuming there's an app for these things now.

Man I feel like an old geezer asking these questions. Truth is I haven't done fantasy league stuff since around 2000.
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Yahoo is a pretty good product for standard free fantasy sports. Good app.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Appreciate the feedback on this the other day. Today at lunch I decided I'd take a slightly above average player from yesteryear and compare him to Heyward. I still think this guy is the most overpaid and overrated player in the game.

Jeff Blauser – 162 game averages
Runs – 80
H/AB – 137/521
2B – 25
3B – 4
HR – 14
RBI – 59
SB – 7
SO – 108
Batting average- .262

Jason Heyward – 162 game averages
Runs – 83
H/AB – 152/583
2B – 29
3B – 4
HR – 17
RBI – 68
SB – 15
SO – 117
Batting average– .262

Anyway, I know most won't care but I just thought I'd share. IDK why I'm fixated on him. I guess I'm just blown away by the contract. Also, like someone else said his height makes his numbers seem even worse.
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I think the short history of Heyward's contract runs like this. He showed phenomenal power and patience in the minors and as a rookie. And then something happened to screw up his hitting -- injuries, the Braves' insistence that he start swinging at more pitches, whatever. But he hit free agency when he was still young enough and his other skills were so manifest that a team with all the money in the world to spend thought what the hell, there's incredible upside here and worst-case scenario he's still an okay player because his defense is so good. If there were a salary cap then his contract might be a problem but as it is, I don't think the Cubs care all that much about money.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
I think the short history of Heyward's contract runs like this. He showed phenomenal power and patience in the minors and as a rookie. And then something happened to screw up his hitting -- injuries, the Braves' insistence that he start swinging at more pitches, whatever. But he hit free agency when he was still young enough and his other skills were so manifest that a team with all the money in the world to spend thought what the hell, there's incredible upside here and worst-case scenario he's still an okay player because his defense is so good. If there were a salary cap then his contract might be a problem but as it is, I don't think the Cubs care all that much about money.
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He is just so damn busy at the plate pre-pitch. Wish’d he quit the jive, shorten up and drive the ball. I think he is just too far gone at this point.
 
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Scotty's Flat Top said:
He is just so damn busy at the plate pre-pitch. Wish’d he quit the jive, shorten up and drive the ball. I think he is just too far gone at this point.
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Of all the guys in the mlb, he's one that would benefit most from a Men In Black-esque memory swipe of all the thinking he's done about his swing in the past 5 years
 
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