Atlanta Braves Thread - Francisco Cabrera edition

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Vercingetorix said:
The most annoying thing is that the stupid MF who threw away a good prospect trying to save his job with a playoff run got to fail upward by getting hired to run the most generous expansion draft in the history of sports. George McPhee and Vegas can eat **** too.
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The NHL expansion draft rules are completely ridiculous.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
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So after the 91 season the Braves and Pirates agreed to a trade to acquire Bonds. It was hilariously one sided (Alejandro Pena, Keith Mitchell, and a prospect to be named later). Scheurholtz and Pirates GM Ted Simmons agree to a deal, inform the players, and John draws up everything needed media. Ted Turner plans on giving Bonds the biggest deal in MLB history with an extension. Schuerholz is about to release the news but calls Simmons just to make sure everything is good to go. Simmons says he cannot make the deal.

Simmons ends backing out of the deal after Simmons tells Jim Leyland about the deal before the Braves released it. Leyland lost his ****, told the owner and President of the team he would quit if the deal went through, and they axed the deal at the last second.
 
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zjcvols said:
What did they do different
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Biggest thing is that everybody got to protect way fewer players. I think last time everybody got to protect about 14 skaters; this time it was more like 10. They ensured that every team would have to expose either a top four defensemen or a second-line forward or both. Massive upgrade from what previous expansion teams got to pick.
 
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vols 30 said:
No chance Acuna starts the season in Atlanta or is this a contract thing?
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Contract thing. Keep him in the minors for an extra three weeks and you get an extra year of service time (aka the Kris Bryant situation).
 
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Also that service time rule is absolute garbage. How the hell if you miss 12 days of service time is that still not considered a full season? Who came up with that idea???
 
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vols 30 said:
If its only 3 weeks, then I understand doing it. I was afraid it was half a year or so.
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No if you wait to call someone up after the first of June then you only have to do three arb years instead of four with seven years service time.

So let's say Acuna gets called May 1st.

2018-2020 are pre arb years
2021-2024 is arb eligible

If he was called up like July 17th then 2021 becomes an arbritation year
 
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zjcvols said:
No if you wait to call someone up after the first of June then you only have to do three arb years instead of four with seven years service time.

So let's say Acuna gets called May 1st.

2018-2020 are pre arb years
2021-2024 is arb eligible

If he was called up like July 17th then 2021 becomes an arbritation year
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Seems like for Acuna there was a couple of dates in play.

Opening day, April 15 and May 1

Or something like that. I’ll see if I can find the article.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Seems like for Acuna there was a couple of dates in play.

Opening day, April 15 and May 1

Or something like that. I’ll see if I can find the article.
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The Braves are not a playoff team, so to me there is no reason to play him the first couple weeks. It was a little different in 2010 with Heyward where the Braves were contenders and every game mattered.
 
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zjcvols said:
The Braves are not a playoff team, so to me there is no reason to play him the first couple weeks. It was a little different in 2010 with Heyward where the Braves were contenders and every game mattered.
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Yeah, I agree. When I read the article last year that explained the reasoning and the consequences to each date I realized he was getting called up in May or whatever the date was.

I think it's May 1.
 
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