Atlanta Braves Thread (I HURT MYSELF TODAY TO SEE IF I STILL FEEL)

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Notorious B.E.N said:
Oh i did see a commercial for that. May give it a shot.

Have you seen Sneaky Pete on Amazon? I liked it a lot. And have you seen anymore of Shameless?
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I'll give Sneaky Pete a try whenever I finish the Young Pope. I finished Shameless. Probably the most unpredictable show I've ever watched.
 
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Wickman said:
I'll give Sneaky Pete a try whenever I finish the Young Pope. I finished Shameless. Probably the most unpredictable show I've ever watched.
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I thought you had given up on Shameless, it's a pretty damn crazy show. But Sneaky Pete is only 10 episodes, easy to watch. I watched 2 one night and the other 8 the next day lol.
 
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Notorious B.E.N said:
I thought you had given up on Shameless, it's a pretty damn crazy show. But Sneaky Pete is only 10 episodes, easy to watch. I watched 2 one night and the other 8 the next day lol.
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Once I passed my exam I had all the time in the world at night. I'll binge watch Sneaky Pete at work and will be finished with it in a night. Taboo is good too, but it is kinda slow as they're building up the plot. If you like mindless adult cartoons, I'm a huge Rick & Morty fan but it's not everyone's cup of tea.
 
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Wickman said:
Once I passed my exam I had all the time in the world at night. I'll binge watch Sneaky Pete at work and will be finished with it in a night. Taboo is good too, but it is kinda slow as they're building up the plot. If you like mindless adult cartoons, I'm a huge Rick & Morty fan but it's not everyone's cup of tea.
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I saw Taboo on one night and watched a few minutes, seemed kind of slow. I like Tom Hardy though. I'm not really into cartoons, just Family Guy. I was thinking about starting Homeland on showtime, i don't know though.
 
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Also, I started Man in the High Castle and i don't know if i just couldn't keep up or if it was too slow, i could hardly tell what was going on. I gave up after 4 episodes lol. I really really wanted to like it, iy just couldn't hold my attention.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
I don't know what this word means. I wouldn't even take him over Aaron Rodgers, much less all time.

You know how the Alabama RB is almost always a Heisman finalist, regardless of how good he turns out to be? Brady's basically been the Alabama RB for a decade and a half, in that it's almost impossible to disentangle his success from the unbelievably perfect situation he's operating in.
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So BB could've had the same success with anyone at the QB position? What about when he was in Cleveland?
 
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Scotty's Flat Top said:
So BB could've had the same success with anyone at the QB position? What about when he was in Cleveland?
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Obviously not "anyone," because if there's anything we know about the modern NFL it's that only 15-20 guys are capable at any one time of playing the position with any real skill at all. But yeah, I think if you could go back in history and give Belichick Manning or Rodgers or Brees then he could have had just as much success anyway. Whereas I think if Brady had had to spend his whole career working for mediocre coaches like Mike McCarthy and Jim Mora and Tony Dungy and Jim Caldwell, he'd probably be sitting on one or two titles like those guys are.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Obviously not "anyone," because if there's anything we know about the modern NFL it's that only 15-20 guys are capable at any one time of playing the position with any real skill at all. But yeah, I think if you could go back in history and give Belichick Manning or Rodgers or Brees then he could have had just as much success anyway. Whereas I think if Brady had had to spend his whole career working for mediocre coaches like Mike McCarthy and Jim Mora and Tony Dungy and Jim Caldwell, he'd probably be sitting on one or two titles like those guys are.
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I don't want to find myself in a situation where I defend Brady (as I currently am). Gag. So this will be my last post on the subject.

Ifs and buts are meaningless and you should know that. I guess Jordan should be reduced because of Phil Jackson? While I loathe Brady and the Patriots, discounting him is ridiculous. You still have to play the game. Name me one better postseason QB. That's where they are judged. I love Manning but if we are honest, his playoff career left me desiring more. Brady wins his 5th and 4th Super Bowl MVP, which he probably will, is unheard of and I last time I checked the hoodie never strapped on the pads and played the game. Just the way it is.

Never answered why it didn't work in Cleveland btw.
 
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Travis Demeritte 🔥🔥🔥

Congratulations to the Falcons fans. I will be riding with you in the super bowl. I apologize in advance for the L that causes you


Most importantly-thoughts and prayers are with you and your family AV and will continue to be my brother
 
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I don't think anyone is arguing arm talent. Huge difference in arm talent and playing quarterback. You would think people mindful of Peyton Manning would be aware of that.
 
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TBrown said:
I don't think anyone is arguing arm talent. Huge difference in arm talent and playing quarterback. You would think people mindful of Peyton Manning would be aware of that.
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Didn't see Elway in his prime but Rodgers has the best arm I've ever seen
 
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Brady has a much better control of the offense than Rodgers. Rodgers has arm strength and mobility on Brady. But neither of those are as important as pre-play reads. And Brady will kill your entire defense there. Same with prime Manning.
 
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Scotty's Flat Top said:
I don't want to find myself in a situation where I defend Brady (as I currently am). Gag. So this will be my last post on the subject.

Ifs and buts are meaningless and you should know that. I guess Jordan should be reduced because of Phil Jackson? While I loathe Brady and the Patriots, discounting him is ridiculous. You still have to play the game. Name me one better postseason QB. That's where they are judged. I love Manning but if we are honest, his playoff career left me desiring more. Brady wins his 5th and 4th Super Bowl MVP, which he probably will, is unheard of and I last time I checked the hoodie never strapped on the pads and played the game. Just the way it is.

Never answered why it didn't work in Cleveland btw.
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1. I have trouble operating in this Cowherdian narrative-based world, where Flo Jacco and Eli are pedestrian quarterbacks who nevertheless TURN IT UP IN THE PLAYOFFS, where two years ago Tom Brady MADE HIS CASE AS THE GOAT because Pete Carroll forgot to hand the ball to Marshawn Lynch, and where Dan Fscking Marino doesn't even exist. But if I did I might count up all the first round byes Brady has enjoyed, which are mostly due to the awful division he plays in, and speculate as to why he's squandered that advantage by only turning it into four titles. I would definitely argue that he gagged in both losses to the Giants, and then I'd certainly boo-hoo his first three rings because early in his career he was largely asked to be a game manager type -- i.e., hand it off, don't F it up, and we'll win it with defense.

...but that would be silly because it would be blaming Brady for situations that were larger than what he had control over. Which would be as misguided as giving the QB all the credit for situations that he doesn't have control over. Which is what the BRADY IS THE GREATEST!!1 argument also depends on.

2. Again, I am not "discounting" Brady; I am not arguing that he is a bum. He is an all-timer. What I am saying is that when you put an all-time QB on normal teams, he's probably going to win one or two Super Bowls over the course of his career like Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Elway, etc. But when you pair an all-time QB with an all-time coach, then you get a dynasty. See also Joe Montana and Bill Walsh. Hell, Troy Aikman has three rings, and he wasn't even that good.

3. It didn't work in Cleveland because even an all-time coach needs better than replacement-level quarterbacking, and all he had there were the reanimated corpses of Bernie Kosar and Vinnie Testaverde. If you'd dropped an elite QB in his lap back then maybe the franchise would never have moved.

4. I do not discount Jordan because of Phil Jackson; I discount Phil Jackson because of Jordan. (And Kobe, and Shaq.) Basketball's a completely different animal. I'm not even sure Phil Jackson is a good coach, much less a great one.
 
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Scotty's Flat Top said:
I lol'd at "only" 4 titles. Put the bottle down, my man.
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I don't know, man. Considering how utterly dominant the Patriots have been in the regular season, and how frequently they've enjoyed a 1 or 2 seed and a first round bye, and how they've been favored in almost every single game they've played in the last decade and a half, only four championships in sixteen years seems a little thin. You'd think the GREATEST QUARTERBACK IN POSTSEASON HISTORY could turn it up a little bit in the playoffs.
 
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