Atlanta Braves Thread - The "John Hart/ John Coppollela da real MVPs" Edition

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I know this team isn't winning 82 games but their pitching is going to make them competitive all year.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
He's so fascinating to me. I've read a ton of stuff about him, and he seemed to be so complex.

I think, in essence, he was a guy who expected more out of people/life than what he got. And he medicated his depression in the worst way possible.

I think it's interesting to ponder where we would be musically in 2015 if he gets help and writes music for 30 more years. Nirvana wasn't going to last much longer - but can you imagine a healthy, solo Kurt Cobain? It would've been awesome.
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Cobain was really good at a really limited slice of music. He wasn't going anywhere else out of that box. If you want to know what his career would have looked like if he'd lived, look over at Axl Rose.
 
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TBrown said:
Forget not watching.. Verc can't leave alabama until we lose
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I'm getting the F out of here on Friday and I don't care what it does to the Braves. Sorry. This place is the devil's ass-hole.

Still haven't watched a pitch though. You're welcome.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Cobain was really good at a really limited slice of music. He wasn't going anywhere else out of that box. If you want to know what his career would have looked like if he'd lived, look over at Axl Rose.
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I know this is a fairly accurate analogy, but I'll be damned if I compare Cobain to Rose. I think he was much more creative than Axl
 
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Wickman said:
I know this is a fairly accurate analogy, but I'll be damned if I compare Cobain to Rose. I think he was much more creative than Axl
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I guess, but 90 percent of what Cobain brought was a slightly more melodic (and therefore radio-friendly) sensibility to the 3 or 4 chord wail that bands like the Pixies had been doing for 5 years. Even the alternating slow-burn verse/hard-riff chorus thing he did on most of his famous songs was pretty formulaic and played out by album #2. That sound was fun at the time -- especially, as a couple of the guys pointed out, when it was Color Me Badd and C&C Music Factory on the radio at the time -- but it was ultimately a dead end. Which was the next half-decade of so-called alternative music aping Cobain mostly sounded the same and mostly sucked.
 
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I mean, the Pixies were really the geniuses of that kind of music, and even they only made a handful of albums and then sort of petered out. Maybe there's some chance that if Cobain had lived he would have evolved into some sort of Maynard (of Tool)-like figure, but I can't really see it.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
I mean, the Pixies were really the geniuses of that kind of music, and even they only made a handful of albums and then sort of petered out. Maybe there's some chance that if Cobain had lived he would have evolved into some sort of Maynard (of Tool)-like figure, but I can't really see it.
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I totally agree that his death ascended him to much greater, unrealistic heights that he likely wouldn't have achieved had he not passed. Idk, I'm just a big fan I guess. I do like the Pixies as well and you're right about them. I doubt Cobain would have been anything like Tool, I could see him going softer before anything like that. Since we're speaking on Tool, I like 4-5 songs from them (Sober, Enema, Schism, I guess mostly the mainstream ones), but they were too much for me sometimes. I watched the lead singer (I guess Maynard?) perform Sober live in a pink onesie and Timberland boots and realized then that A. This dude doesn't give a **** about anything and B. They're too much for me lol
 
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