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Wickman said:
I totally agree that his death ascended him to much greater, unrealistic heights that he likely wouldn't have achieved had he not passed. Idk, I'm just a big fan I guess. I do like the Pixies as well and you're right about them. I doubt Cobain would have been anything like Tool, I could see him going softer before anything like that. Since we're speaking on Tool, I like 4-5 songs from them (Sober, Enema, Schism, I guess mostly the mainstream ones), but they were too much for me sometimes. I watched the lead singer (I guess Maynard?) perform Sober live in a pink onesie and Timberland boots and realized then that A. This dude doesn't give a **** about anything and B. They're too much for me lol
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Tool played the greatest show I ever saw, at the 9:30 Club in Washington DC in 93 or 94. It only lasted maybe 45 minutes and Maynard had open contempt for the audience and it was still somehow amazing. I don't think anyone in the room could have taken any more. My friends and I all went for beers afterwards (since we had some unexpected extra time) and we all just sat there slumped and silent and exhausted.

Anyway, I liked Nirvana; God knows they were our radio saviors at the time. Even a college radio diehard like me was thrilled to hear the sort of music the normals started listening to after Nevermind went big. ("Oh my God! It's Jane's Addiction! Coming out of a frat house!!") We suddenly had a great football team, and the Braves were great after being horrible forever, and there was music that wasn't terrible on mainstream radio, and I was 22 years old, which might be the best age there is. It was heady times.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Tool played the greatest show I ever saw, at the 9:30 Club in Washington DC in 93 or 94. It only lasted maybe 45 minutes and Maynard had open contempt for the audience and it was still somehow amazing. I don't think anyone in the room could have taken any more. My friends and I all went for beers afterwards (since we had some unexpected extra time) and we all just sat there slumped and silent and exhausted.

Anyway, I liked Nirvana; God knows they were our radio saviors at the time. Even a college radio diehard like me was thrilled to hear the sort of music the normals started listening to after Nevermind went big. ("Oh my God! It's Jane's Addiction! Coming out of a frat house!!") We suddenly had a great football team, and the Braves were great after being horrible forever, and there was music that wasn't terrible on mainstream radio, and I was 22 years old, which might be the best age there is. It was heady times.
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Haha it sounds like you had good times indeed. I'm not sure I could handle a Tool concert live. Mainstream radio growing up for me was Backstreet, N'Sync, Britney Spears, etc., and I'm not sure anything "saved" it. There was a lot of early 2000's rap and R&B that I liked, but there was also a lot of garbage from those genres as well. So, I can't say we had a savior from boy bands. And don't lie, you were a huge Jane's Addiction fan. Jane Says was your favorite cassette
 
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Wickman said:
Haha it sounds like you had good times indeed. I'm not sure I could handle a Tool concert live. Mainstream radio growing up for me was Backstreet, N'Sync, Britney Spears, etc., and I'm not sure anything "saved" it. There was a lot of early 2000's rap and R&B that I liked, but there was also a lot of garbage from those genres as well. So, I can't say we had a savior from boy bands. And don't lie, you were a huge Jane's Addiction fan. Jane Says was your favorite cassette
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I never really liked "Jane Says" that much, but the first half of that record was fantastic. Can't remember what their drummer's name was but he was tremendous.

I spent most of college driving down to Atlanta to see college-radio bands like that at the Masquerade. The fact that they ever went mainstream was (and still sort of is) unbelievable.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
I never really liked "Jane Says" that much, but the first half of that record was fantastic. Can't remember what their drummer's name was but he was tremendous.

I spent most of college driving down to Atlanta to see college-radio bands like that at the Masquerade. The fact that they ever went mainstream was (and still sort of is) unbelievable.
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That's what I'm doing now, going to the couple of music festivals I'm going to this year and a few other concerts. Jack White is still the best show I've seen so far, but I've listened to Gary Clark live enough to know that he will trump that. Foo Fighters will be great as well. I'm just trying to get all this stuff out of the way before I get married and won't be able to do it
 
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Vercingetorix said:
I guess, but 90 percent of what Cobain brought was a slightly more melodic (and therefore radio-friendly) sensibility to the 3 or 4 chord wail that bands like the Pixies had been doing for 5 years. Even the alternating slow-burn verse/hard-riff chorus thing he did on most of his famous songs was pretty formulaic and played out by album #2. That sound was fun at the time -- especially, as a couple of the guys pointed out, when it was Color Me Badd and C&C Music Factory on the radio at the time -- but it was ultimately a dead end. Which was the next half-decade of so-called alternative music aping Cobain mostly sounded the same and mostly sucked.
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I always assumed you were more of a Live "Lightning Crashes" kinda dude.
 
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Wickman said:
I totally agree that his death ascended him to much greater, unrealistic heights that he likely wouldn't have achieved had he not passed. Idk, I'm just a big fan I guess. I do like the Pixies as well and you're right about them. I doubt Cobain would have been anything like Tool, I could see him going softer before anything like that. Since we're speaking on Tool, I like 4-5 songs from them (Sober, Enema, Schism, I guess mostly the mainstream ones), but they were too much for me sometimes. I watched the lead singer (I guess Maynard?) perform Sober live in a pink onesie and Timberland boots and realized then that A. This dude doesn't give a **** about anything and B. They're too much for me lol
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I've read some things that suggest Kurt was going to blow the lid off the grunge scene with In Utero - it was supposed to be totally different from anything before it - but Geffen didn't "get it" and had Kurt tone it down.
 
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Maynard James Keenan is ten times the vocalist and songwriter that Cobain ever thought about being.

And if any of you ever get a chance to see Tool live, you should absolutely do it. They are incredible.
 
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Just read this:

I heard one of the most unbelievable statistics I've ever heard, last night.

"They started out that game against Houston down 8-4. At that point, it was the first time since March 24th that they had been down by more than two.

That's nine/9/nueve straight games without ever facing a 2-possession deficit, which is the longest such streak in Modern NBA History per one of their writers on Twitter."
 
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GreatWhiteNorth said:
Maynard James Keenan is ten times the vocalist and songwriter that Cobain ever thought about being.

And if any of you ever get a chance to see Tool live, you should absolutely do it. They are incredible.
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They've been on a very short list of must see bands for me for a while now, but they haven't toured in years. Hopefully they'll get things together with the long rumored new album and go back on tour sometime in the near future.
 
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Wickman said:
https://youtu.be/u7lweNCCwS0

This was the performance I was talking about earlier. That dude is wild
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That's one of their earlier performances, when Maynard was a little more into the bizarre/shock and awe/"what the F was that" value...

Their newer performances are much, much more of a musical "experience". Still some crazy ish, but not quite as raw, if that makes sense...

[youtube]http://youtu.be/GCmrLoYeO7E[/youtube]
 
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GreatWhiteNorth said:
Maynard James Keenan is ten times the vocalist and songwriter that Cobain ever thought about being.

And if any of you ever get a chance to see Tool live, you should absolutely do it. They are incredible.
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I will precursor by saying Tool, as a band, just phenomenal.

With that said, they are just a ridiculous collection of musicians. By ridiculous, I do not mean it negatively. Adam Jones is all about tone... not the greatest technical guitarist by a long shot, but his tone and presence of sound is up there with pink floyd. Just a totally unique artist in conjunction with his graphic arts expertise.

Maynard is just unique as a human being. He cares but he doesn't care at the same time. Does his own thing.

Then you have the actual accomplished musician in the band in danny carey. He's off the charts good as a percussionist.

Somehow they make it work really well. Top to bottom. Hoping for a new album at some point. It's been too damn long.
 
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underscore said:
I will precursor by saying Tool, as a band, just phenomenal.

With that said, they are just a ridiculous collection of musicians. By ridiculous, I do not mean it negatively. Adam Jones is all about tone... not the greatest technical guitarist by a long shot, but his tone and presence of sound is up there with pink floyd. Just a totally unique artist in conjunction with his graphic arts expertise.

Maynard is just unique as a human being. He cares but he doesn't care at the same time. Does his own thing.

Then you have the actual accomplished musician in the band in danny carey. He's off the charts good as a percussionist.

Somehow they make it work really well. Top to bottom. Hoping for a new album at some point. It's been too damn long.
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Danny Carey and Brann Dailor from Mastodon are two of the best drummers I've ever heard.
 
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GreatWhiteNorth said:
Danny Carey and Brann Dailor from Mastodon are two of the best drummers I've ever heard.
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Certainly not horrible drummers, the two of them.

I'd also toss in Tomas Haake -- hell, the entire band of Meshuggah are just not of this planet when it comes to tone, song structure, time, and creativity.
 
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Chunky matt Harvey is my favorite matt Harvey

Stras vs dark knight. All I'm missing is the beer
 
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