Atlanta Braves Thread - The "John Hart/ John Coppollela da real MVPs" Edition

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Just belatedly saw this gem from the RF:

Or everyone could stop being wusses and accept football the way it is. Leave it alone. If you're worried about concussions then don't play. the day soccer overtakes football in this country is the day that America truly dies. At that point we should change the name to Transamerica and join the Eurpoean Union.

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Not gonna jump in that conversation but the thing that's gonna kill football as we know it is when insurance companies start refusing to write policies for high school football.
 
Just give me a good product with some great players here (preferably in Atlanta) and I'll watch soccer.

If/when American football dies, a large part of me dies too.
 
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Just give me a good product with some great players here (preferably in Atlanta) and I'll watch soccer.

If/when American football dies, a large part of me dies too.

Same here. But I think we'll have something called "American football" for a long time to come. I just think over time it'll look more like seven on seven drills, at least in high school and college. College FB will probably last longer in the south, where players will be paid, asked to sign pro-style waivers (legal, since they'll be 18 or over), and the system will be more or less finally formalized as a feeder system into the NFL, but ultimately the whole thing will gradually wither without high school football underpinning it. And lawyers and insurance companies will make it really problematic to let minors play organized football for free.
 
Not gonna jump in that conversation but the thing that's gonna kill football as we know it is when insurance companies start refusing to write policies for high school football.

Obviously the schools would have to stop sponsoring it at that point, but I feel like the game could still survive with leagues being set up outside of the HS framework. As long as the carrot of NFL money (and hopefully in the near future, college) is dangling out there, MANY parents are going to jump through whatever insane hoops they have to in order to keep their hope alive of one day cashing that lottery ticket.
 
Same here. But I think we'll have something called "American football" for a long time to come. I just think over time it'll look more like seven on seven drills, at least in high school and college. College FB will probably last longer in the south, where players will be paid, asked to sign pro-style waivers (legal, since they'll be 18 or over), and the system will be more or less finally formalized as a feeder system into the NFL, but ultimately the whole thing will gradually wither without high school football underpinning it. And lawyers and insurance companies will make it really problematic to let minors play organized football for free.
From the GHSA spring meeting held yesterday regarding contact during practice:


Full-contact drills will no longer be permitted every day during the preseason. They will be limited to 135 minutes per week, with contact taking place on no more than two straight days. Full contact will also be limited to a single session of a two-a-day practice.

During the season, full contact in practice will be limited to 90 minutes per week, or 30 minutes per practice, spread across three practices. Full contact on back-to-back days will be permitted, but three straight full-contact practices will be prohibited.
 
Obviously the schools would have to stop sponsoring it at that point, but I feel like the game could still survive with leagues being set up outside of the HS framework. As long as the carrot of NFL money (and hopefully in the near future, college) is dangling out there, MANY parents are going to jump through whatever insane hoops they have to in order to keep their hope alive of one day cashing that lottery ticket.

I still think it'll come down to money. Right now "serious" youth leagues for baseball, hockey, soccer, etc. require a fairly shockingly high investment of money and time; surely outside football leagues would be the same. Middle- and upper-class families are already starting to keep their kids out of football (a trend which you have to assume will continue), and poor kids' families won't be able to afford to play in outside leagues. I wouldn't be surprised to see the NFL try to subsidize youth leagues like that once HS football dries up (in the name of "community outreach," of course), but that'll look increasingly gauche as regular football becomes marginalized.

The problem with football as we know it remaining viable is the sheer scale of it. Every team requires dozens of players; every league requires hundreds. In order to get a few dozen NFL-caliber players in the draft every year, you've got to have had tens of thousands of 9th graders try out for football eight years previously. 21 out of 22 of the players on the field in any of these recruiting highlight videos are irrelevant random guys, but the system doesn't work without them. When they're gone so is football.
 
From the GHSA spring meeting held yesterday regarding contact during practice:


Full-contact drills will no longer be permitted every day during the preseason. They will be limited to 135 minutes per week, with contact taking place on no more than two straight days. Full contact will also be limited to a single session of a two-a-day practice.

During the season, full contact in practice will be limited to 90 minutes per week, or 30 minutes per practice, spread across three practices. Full contact on back-to-back days will be permitted, but three straight full-contact practices will be prohibited.

I can hear all the real Americans over on the Dawgvent throwing up right now. Wow.
 
@KevinMcAlpin: Bethancourt on SB: "got to show my wheels at some point. Fredi gave me the sign and I knew the pitcher wasnt paying attention to me" #Braves
 
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