Atlanta Braves Thread VI

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zjcvols said:
I totally agree. It was bad on both sides.
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I hated it because it was such a good game otherwise. One second they are letting them bang and go at it, and the next they are calling a foul when a player gets looked at wrong. And forget about a travelling call...
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GreatWhiteNorth said:
I hated it because it was such a good game otherwise. One second they are letting them bang and go at it, and the next they are calling a foul when a player gets looked at wrong. And forget about a travelling call...
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Dieng walked five times at least tonight. Not called once.

God, I sound so damn sad.
 
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bentenn said:
Today Cowherd said the 2 sports that were better 20 years ago were boxing and college basketball. I have to agree with that
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I've said this before but I can barely watch college basketball anymore. I still watch my school, obviously, and keep up with the conference they play in, but I have almost no interest in the national game the way I used to back in the 80s. Watching the "good" teams play is like watching pickup basketball between a couple of AAU allstar teams. I used to watch 95 percent college and 5 percent NBA basketball. Other than UT games, I'd say that's flipped all the way around now.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
I've said this before but I can barely watch college basketball anymore. I still watch my school, obviously, and keep up with the conference they play in, but I have almost no interest in the national game the way I used to back in the 80s. Watching the "good" teams play is like watching pickup basketball between a couple of AAU allstar teams. I used to watch 95 percent college and 5 percent NBA basketball. Other than UT games, I'd say that's flipped all the way around now.
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What has really changed his three things:

1) Evolution of zone defenses/bigger athletes

2) Hand checking still allowed in college basketball. The NBA has spread the game out.

3) Coaches overcoach so ****ing bad in college basketball.
 
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zjcvols said:
What has really changed his three things:

1) Evolution of zone defenses/bigger athletes

2) Hand checking still allowed in college basketball. The NBA has spread the game out.

3) Coaches overcoach so ****ing bad in college basketball.
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I hate the 35 second shot clock and i don't really know why. I guess it makes the game seem slower?
 
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LOL revisionist history. Tell me how Trey Burke would have stopped Luke Hancock from going off. Spike Albrecht had the hot hand.
 
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zjcvols said:
Watch the 1983 Louisville-Houston Final Four. It's basically porn for basketball fans.
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I was 13. That was my baseline expectation for what college basketball was supposed to be. It's amazing how much it's devolved since then.

The funny thing is that the tournament was nowhere near the national event that it is now. That didn't really happen until ESPN started showing all the early round games on cable, and filling out a bracket became something that everybody in the country does, not just nerds. The success of the tournament has completely papered over how abysmally bad the sport has become.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Offhand I don't remember them having anybody you'd have ever heard of. They won the way teams won back when college basketball was really good: by having a good team full of upperclassmen that had played together for years.
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Pervis Ellison was pretty good.
 
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zjcvols said:
What has really changed his three things:

1) Evolution of zone defenses/bigger athletes

2) Hand checking still allowed in college basketball. The NBA has spread the game out.

3) Coaches overcoach so ****ing bad in college basketball.
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Defense has vastly evolved at the same time that all of the really good offensive talent has been sucked out of the sport. I think that's 80 percent of it.

Jordan and Olajuwon were both playing college basketball at age 21. You can chop it up a hundred different ways but that's what's different about today's college basketball.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Defense has vastly evolved at the same time that all of the really good offensive talent has been sucked out of the sport. I think that's 80 percent of it.

Jordan and Olajuwon were both playing college basketball at age 21. You can chop it up a hundred different ways but that's what's different about today's college basketball.
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My dad talked about this earlier. If this was 25-30 years ago, Cal's starting lineup would be

John Wall
Eric Bledsoe
Michael Kidd Gilchrist
Anthony Davis
DeMarcus Cousins
 
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GAVol said:
Pervis Ellison was pretty good.
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Ah, I forgot about him. Great college player. NBA journeyman.

It's not just the elite players like Jordan and Olajuwon. Pervis Ellison was a four-year starter. Nowadays even a guy like him would be gone after a year.

Cf. Scotty Hopson, the Jarnell Stokes decision. They all go as soon as they've got a shot.
 
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zjcvols said:
My dad talked about this earlier. If this was 25-30 years ago, Cal's starting lineup would be

John Wall
Eric Bledsoe
Michael Kidd Gilchrist
Anthony Davis
DeMarcus Cousins
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Kevin Durant led the NBA in scoring in what would have been his senior season. I wonder what he would have done in the Big 12?
 
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And good God was it just me or did Pitino look like the living dead last night? First coach to win a title post mortem?
 
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This weekend's match ups in DC look to be Teheran/Detwiler, Hudson/Strasburg, Maholm/Gonzalez.
 
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#250
Justin Upton has more home runs than the padres pirates and marlins..combined
 
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