Atlanta Police walkout

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ETV said:
CNN broadcast reported that there is a rumor about APD calling out for the weekend. Not sure how much truth there is to it considering the source.
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Call outs get the point across..9 air traffic controllers calling out sick last year at two ARTCC's stopped the government shutdown.

Can't imagine what a full police walk out would be like. Robocop 2 comes to mind.
 
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hog88 said:
Agreed, I just don't know how to go about it.
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I think so true third party arbiter/mediator type of some type. Have a list of approved ones from the cops side and then have the "victim" choose one. They split the cost to get an initial ruling. Both sides present their case, and if the arbiter decides it's worth pursuing it gets taken to a real court.
 
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k-town_king said:
Quoting a known racist piece of crap on a Russian propaganda site. It doesn't get much more conservative than this post.
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Umm, your liberal comrades are littered all over RT as talking heads. I know nothing of the author, but whatever he is or isn’t, or whatever you may think of him doesn’t negate what he’s saying. And what does “conservative” have to do with it? Reach and screech. 😎👍🏻
 
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Orange_Crush said:
There are lots of lawyers out there. I don't see that all of them either have to go into criminal system or civil law. I'm sure there is room for criminal attorneys that sit on a civil branch of mediation that make weighted recommendations to the criminal/civil branches of the justice system.

The system already accepts testimony of expert witnesses. I'm sure there's room in the process for expert witnesses when it comes to the actions of police officers.
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I’d wager there are more crooked lawyers than crooked cops.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
They didn't just pull her out of thin air, she obviously was arrested for a reason, even if it was because she was hanging around drug dealers. Magistrates try to make it a habit not to make up crimes when they sign warrants. There clearly was enough supporting evidence for her arrest by officers, if it cost $10k it clearly was a serious felony
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This is such a horse... post that perfectly describes the systemic problems in question. Everything they did was perfectly within the system. It was probably even perfectly legal. But they didn't get the arrest warrant seeking a conviction because it wasn't a conviction they wanted.

They signed the warrant due to a legal loophole created of what "criminal possession" actually is. They didn't need to get a conviction. They didn't need to prove possession. They just needed to state a suspicion to throw a teenage girl in jail and milk her family for thousands of dollars that went to the best attorney in town, paid as non-refundable retainer for hours that he largely never actually worked, because the ******** charges were planned to be dropped all along.

And this was par for the course to put pressure on the guy they knew it actually belonged to.

And the resident law enforcement guy's attitude was literally, "Well, she was guilty of something. Even if it was just associating with someone that was actually guilt."

"The system is great at putting bad guys in jail."

No. That's not great. When you have to knowingly false charge the people you're claiming to serve...which resulted in knowingly putting an innocent person in jail...which resulted in non-refundable bail, and non-refundable retainers...not to mention the fear, anxiety and everything else...

I can't think many poorer ways to put criminals in jail. And I can't think of many better arguments for systemic reform. And the LE answer couldn't be a better argument against LE attitudes in this country.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I'd wager that lawyer knew exactly what the racket was, and cashed that $10,000 check knowing he'd actually never spend more than four hours on charges that would get dropped as soon as it went to court--if not sooner.
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Just saying that I think I might trust the police more than a group of attorneys (hint: there’s already a large gathering of them in Washington DC)
 
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DC_Vol said:
Just saying that I think I might trust the police more than a group of attorneys (hint: there’s already a large gathering of them in Washington DC)
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Just asking who says we have to trust any of them?

It would be interesting to have a system that allows you to sue the arresting officer and probate that signs arrest warrants if you are found innocent of the charges they put you in jail for. If they arrested you without enough evidence to convict, and they emptied your savings for you to fight it, maybe you should be able to sue for false imprisonment.

And yes, I mean personal lawsuits. Not the city, county or state paying us off. I mean your personal finances for your personal decisions. Not tax money you took from me, paid back to me to shut me up for your abuses of me.

I wonder of some of these abuses of the system would dry up.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Just asking who says we have to trust any of them?

It would be interesting to have a system that allows you to sue the arresting officer and probate that signs arrest warrants if you are found innocent of the charges they put you in jail for. If they arrested you without enough evidence to convict, and they emptied your savings for you to fight it, maybe you should be able to sue for false imprisonment.

And yes, I mean personal lawsuits. Not the city, county or state paying us off. I mean your personal finances for your personal decisions. Not tax money you took from me, paid back to me to shut me up for your abuses of me.

I wonder of some of these abuses of the system would dry up.
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I may have misunderstood your post. I thought you were suggesting we hand overview to a group of attorneys.
 
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