AU, UGA, and SC asked to remove team chaplains

[OrangeDonkey]

It's more about being informed. Last I checked both imaginary groupings of Muslims you made in the above post memorize verses out of the same book. Stands to reason both groups follow it's teachings. But if you want to spin it about 'me being at peace', feel free. Either way, I don't give a rip about uninformed knuckleheads.

And I find it amusing how you attack me for not being at peace and becoming unglued in the above post. A word of advice, worry about finding peace within before instructing others to find peace. Of course I'm using a logical line of thinking with a walking illogical contradiction. Have a good day living in your snowglobe.

Do you consider the Westboro Baptist Church an accurate depiction of Christianity? They use the same Bible and scriptures as you do, but that doesn't necessarily mean that their interpretations are reflective of the entire Christian religion.

 

[Lawrence Wright]

Lord, please protect me from your followers.

 

[jjay2518]

It's more about being informed. Last I checked both imaginary groupings of Muslims you made in the above post memorize verses out of the same book. Stands to reason both groups follow it's teachings. But if you want to spin it about 'me being at peace', feel free. Either way, I don't give a rip about uninformed knuckleheads.

And I find it amusing how you attack me for not being at peace and becoming unglued in the above post. A word of advice, worry about finding peace within before instructing others to find peace. Of course I'm using a logical line of thinking with a walking illogical contradiction. Have a good day living in your snowglobe.

Lol do you realize all the messed up stuff that could be spread about Christianity using the exact same logic? The Bible could be used to make Christians look equally or more crazy. It's sad that people actually fall for this sort of propaganda/fear-mongering.

 

[LouderVol]

Here is my thought. As with most things with the various football program the coaches say is the final line. If the coach wants to bring in a yoga instructor for the team, guess what it happens. If the coach wanted to bring in a cigar connoisseur that would probably happen. If the coach didn't want a chaplain on the team there wouldn't be a chaplain. Its not the university promoting it, its the coach. And the coach knows the team the best. If a coach thought having a muslim chaplain and an atheist chaplain along side the christian one would bring him an advantage, there would be those guys there. Even on "really" Christian teams at public universities, the players admitted (thinking specifically where i have heard this from Georgia and Clemson players) there was no pressure from the coach, administration or chaplain that they had to engage in a religious activity. and what happens to the players who want the chaplain? I am willing to bet dollars to pennys that if a player brought the issue up to the coach that he would like to talk to an agnostic before game time, that would happen. If there is no demand for those other faiths you can't blame the Christians for having a chaplain present when their services are requested by players.

 

[WhiteRhino]

At the end of all this, God still loves all of you. So smile, at least you got that going for you.

 

[Roustabout]

Do you consider the Westboro Baptist Church an accurate depiction of Christianity? They use the same Bible and scriptures as you do, but that doesn't necessarily mean that their interpretations are reflective of the entire Christian religion.

Great point. Westboro is clearly not following the example of Christ.
Question: are radical Muslims following the example of Mohammad?

Oh wait, that's not the point you intended to make.

 

[Volfan76]

Do you consider the Westboro Baptist Church an accurate depiction of Christianity? They use the same Bible and scriptures as you do, but that doesn't necessarily mean that their interpretations are reflective of the entire Christian religion.

Last time I checked the Westboro Baptist Church wasn't sawing off the arms and legs of children or beheading anyone. Comparing one misguided church to radical islam is completely ridiculous.

 

[OrangeDonkey]

Last time I checked the Westboro Baptist Church wasn't sawing off the arms and legs of children or beheading anyone. Comparing one misguided church to radical islam is completely ridiculous.

Okay then, just off the top of my head, what about The Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, Hutaree, Army of God, Ku Klux Klan or just about any anti-abortion violence.

However, that wasn't even the point I was trying to make. I was not trying to compare the WBC to radical Muslims; I was showing that one particular sect of a religon shouldn't represent the religon in its entirety.

 

[sammyhagar]

Creation and all creatures indicate that their is a Creator/Designer. Supernatural and intelligent. A house dont just build itself. Their is a designer in everything we see.

Lmao

 

[The Ron Mexico]

Creation and all creatures indicate that their is a Creator/Designer. Supernatural and intelligent. A house dont just build itself. Their is a designer in everything we see.

Using this logic, the creator must have a creator. And that creator must have a creator. And so on and so on....

 

[UTRavens]

After reading their playbook that would be a pretty fair assessment. Funny how society tries so hard to vilify Christians whose core belief is to spread the good news of a risen Savior, and defend a group of people whose guidebook, the Qu'ran instructs it's followers to kill infidels who aren't willing to convert. Keep up the condescending attitude, I'm sure it will come in handy when you are on the wrong end of a long blade being held by a subhuman monster that follows a pedophile prophet and the moon god Ra. Probably should do some research before making light of a situation.

The Bible says plenty of horrible things, too. The difference is much more of a matter of politics and socioeconomics than scripture. Honestly, Christianity is very lucky that it happened to develop mostly in wealthier parts of the world - and as that growth has taken place, Christian views have gradually become softer over time. But there are plenty of pockets in Africa where Christianity is the dominant religion and horrible acts of oppression are used in its name - and parts of the Bible certainly lend themselves to being interpreted in an evil way. But the more educated people in the Christian world have the sense to ignore those parts.

Islam at one point in history would have been considered the more progressive religion, but when an ideology is stuck in a part of the world mired in constant economic and political instability, more radical views are bound to emerge. If you want to say the difference between the two religions is caused by politics, education or economics I'll be right there with you, but a blanket statement of "my religion is better than yours" isn't going to take the discussion anywhere.

 

[volfanhill]

Is this worse then the war on Christmas?

 

[OrangeDonkey]

The Bible says plenty of horrible things, too. The difference is much more of a matter of politics and socioeconomics than scripture. Honestly, Christianity is very lucky that it happened to develop mostly in wealthier parts of the world - and as that growth has taken place, Christian views have gradually become softer over time. But there are plenty of pockets in Africa where Christianity is the dominant religion and horrible acts of oppression are used in its name - and parts of the Bible certainly lend themselves to being interpreted in an evil way. But the more educated people in the Christian world have the sense to ignore those parts.

Islam at one point in history would have been considered the more progressive religion, but when an ideology is stuck in a part of the world mired in constant economic and political instability, more radical views are bound to emerge. If you want to say the difference between the two religions is caused by politics, education or economics I'll be right there with you, but a blanket statement of "my religion is better than yours" isn't going to take the discussion anywhere.

Excellent post. I was actually going to touch on East African Christian idealogy, specifically in Uganda, but I hadn't thought about the socioeconomic aspects in the way you presented it. It really is fascinating.

 

[MikeVol44]

In God We Trust was added in 1957 on paper money, and coins in 1864, both well after the country already had money naturally.

We also didn't add "Under God" to the pledge of allegiance until 1954.

Most of our founding fathers were agnostic, atheist, or a derivative of Christianity (as we forget the colonies were formed to get AWAY from mainstream religion, and because money/east india company, but still) that wasn't extremely popular. The Treaty of Tripoli and several other first hand words from those fathers (and their choices of slavery and women's lack of rights) show that they were more about a strong country with no real care what the religion was, and most believed no religion was the best way to go for ruling.

Have you toured Washington, DC much? Has anyone ever taken the time to see how many Bible verses are carved into stone or affixed to those buildings? Any from the Q'ran? Buddhists? etc...etc...?

Most of the Pilgrims came to the "new world" to establish a country where the King would not have the power to issue an EDICT that required everyone to be Catholic...

see the life of John Bunyan (1628-1688) who spent significant time in jail in England for being a protestant preacher--every time a Catholic occupied the Throne of England. Pilgrim's Progress is a great read.

People also forget about the Protestant Reformation that swept the world after Martin Luther published his 95 Theses on Oct. 31, 1517. It had a significant effect on world politics--beginning in Europe and spreading across the globe...as also did THE Enlightenment.

A good article to read is here.

Did America Have a Christian Founding?

Also--here's a website for information about the Declaration signers...

Religious Affiliation of the Signers of the Declaration of Independence

I'm not asking anyone to agree with anything....just injecting a little bit of research information (a drop in the bucket of opinions and information) for anyone wanting to read a little more about the story.

GO VOLS! :salute: