Auto Qualifiers Need Done Away With

#77
#77
I'm good with the top 5 conferences getting automatic qualifiers, just not 4 automatic byes. Just seed everyone like normal. While I hate Notre Dame, it's fascinating they literally can't be a top 4 team right now
 
#78
#78
Baseball25 said:
Take the best teams and to away with automatic qualifiers. Now, we have Clemson backing into a possible playoff spot if they luck up and win the ACC.
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I agree that there are some major problems with the current format. They don't want to see the same few teams in the playoffs year after year but first round is going to be unwatchable as blowouts if some changes aren't made. I don't know the exact answer but there has to be an incentive for these teams to make sure they have significant wins vs quality competition to get in.
 
#79
#79
Baseball25 said:
Take the best teams and to away with automatic qualifiers. Now, we have Clemson backing into a possible playoff spot if they luck up and win the ACC.
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Then they need to end the conference championship games and give up all that money. Yeah, I'm not holding my breath on that one.
 
#80
#80
Can I just say one thing that bugs me this time of year is the people who seem to want it both ways when it comes to conference championship games. They want the winner of a conference to get special considerations, but they also don't think a conference champ loss should hurt a team. The second half of this is what I find absurd. A conference championship game is another data point on your season, one in which you get to play a quality opponent. If you win it gives you a quality win, and if you get blown out it should negatively affect you period. I don't even understand the logic of why it should never hurt a team, you are playing a game on the field, of course your performance should be taken into account.

Also when they change the rules they should add that ND cannot host any home games in the playoff until they join the Big10
 
#81
#81
Majors said:
What determines the best teams? Journalism majors ranking teams based on their opinions or on the field play? If you don’t have conference champions then you have no need for conferences.
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We should just utilize rankings based on Vegas spreads on a neutral field.
 
#82
#82
Baseball25 said:
Take the best teams and to away with automatic qualifiers. Now, we have Clemson backing into a possible playoff spot if they luck up and win the ACC.
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Nope. Conference Champions should get automatic bids, but not a bye. They should have to be in the top 8 to get a bye.
 
#83
#83
I'm ok with the conference champions automatically qualifying. Just don't think they should be guaranteed a 1-4 seed and a 1st round bye.
 
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#84
BearBryant said:
Nope. Conference Champions should get automatic bids, but not a bye. They should have to be in the top 8 to get a bye.
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I agree with this. Top 4 seeds shouldnt be the conference Champions, it should be the 4 best teams period. Also, i think if SMU beats Clemson, they are going to let Alabama in the playoffs at the last spot. I think it should go to South Carolina, but they will give it to the turds because of the head 2 head. South Carolina is playing great football atm. Alabama isnt.
 
#85
#85
Vol8188 said:
If you do that, there’s zero reason to continue having conference championship games
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Do away with conference championship games. Who wants to play in Atlanta when you can play in Neyland? I think it is a disadvantage. I'm so glad we have three weeks off. Go to 16 teams, and the top 8 will get to host the first round. Basically, same amount of games.
 
#86
#86
Has anyone else drawn the conclusion that CFP modeled their playoffs after the 12 Divisions from Hunger Games? The sick bastards really love fabricating a story and manipulating the results to get the “perfect ending” for Disney.
 
#87
#87
adam.vol said:
The committee said Boise State won’t be penalized. They stay ahead of Bama, Miami, and whoever else the committee votes [behind] them this Tuesday.

SEC should sue Sankey for agreeing to this crap. The fact that the ACC can get as many teams in as the SEC with their weak schedules by a bunch of voters from PAC 12 and Big 10 country, means Sankey got out maneuvered big time.
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Are you serious?
 
#88
#88
adam.vol said:
The committee said Boise State won’t be penalized. They stay ahead of Bama, Miami, and whoever else the committee votes [behind] them this Tuesday.

SEC should sue Sankey for agreeing to this crap. The fact that the ACC can get as many teams in as the SEC with their weak schedules by a bunch of voters from PAC 12 and Big 10 country, means Sankey got out maneuvered big time.
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UNLV would take their place but would be a 12th seed. Am I right?
 
#89
#89
rocytop2624 said:
Are you serious?
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Sankey represented the SEC poorly. Our conference has been terribly rewarded so far in the rankings vs the level of talent our league has in players and coaching staffs greatly outweighs the next best conference.

Aside from that, anything I said was for emphasis.
 
#90
#90
aRmo said:
I agree with this. Top 4 seeds shouldnt be the conference Champions, it should be the 4 best teams period. Also, i think if SMU beats Clemson, they are going to let Alabama in the playoffs at the last spot. I think it should go to South Carolina, but they will give it to the turds because of the head 2 head. South Carolina is playing great football atm. Alabama isnt.
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Yea SC should jump multiple teams that beat them. That makes sense.
 
#91
#91
adam.vol said:
The committee said Boise State won’t be penalized. They stay ahead of Bama, Miami, and whoever else the committee votes [behind] them this Tuesday.

SEC should sue Sankey for agreeing to this crap. The fact that the ACC can get as many teams in as the SEC with their weak schedules by a bunch of voters from PAC 12 and Big 10 country, means Sankey got out maneuvered big time.
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We could’ve stuck with the 4 team format.
 
#92
#92
rocytop2624 said:
UNLV would take their place but would be a 12th seed. Am I right?
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Not necessarily. If Boise gets into the top 9, they should be a lock as only 3 conference auto bids are ranked behind them.

If SMU wins, Boise can still lose to UNLV and both can get in since SMU is already in the top 12. UNLV is the second highest ranked Group of 5 school. They get one auto bid, but that does not exclude anyone who is already ranked in the top 8-12 that didn’t win a conference championship.

That’s all assuming that the committee was behind honest when they said teams will not be penalized for conference championship losses.
 
#93
#93
C-south said:
We could’ve stuck with the 4 team format.
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That would have been more beneficial to the SEC in comparison to ACC, Group of 5, and Big 12. The only conference who ever had more than 1 entry besides the SEC was the Big 10.

We could have not joined Group of 5 or Notre Dame and made what worked best for the SEC, also.
 
#94
#94
I think the committee wanted an out when picking the fate of a coin toss between 2 teams for that 4th spot and having the Pac12 made it much easier. Expansion screwed up the system.
I hate the system, but expansion made it that much worse.
 
#95
#95
I have no idea why we needed more than 8. No byes and not a 4th game (1/3 of the season worth of playoffs).
 
#96
#96
adam.vol said:
That would have been more beneficial to the SEC in comparison to ACC, Group of 5, and Big 12. The only conference who ever had more than 1 entry besides the SEC was the Big 10.

We could have not joined Group of 5 or Notre Dame and made what worked best for the SEC, also.
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I’m sure there’s a scenario where the sec wouldn’t have had a team in the final 4.
 
#97
#97
C-south said:
I’m sure there’s a scenario where the sec wouldn’t have had a team in the final 4.
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Thats possible.

Nick Saban had not retired when the schedules were announced. Smart and Saban always beat everyone except teams who could win in the playoffs. Add Texas’s cushy schedule and returning QB - Two or three top 6 schools always seemed likely.

Bama’s loss to Vanderbilt really screwed things up for the SEC this year. Sankey probably thought our conference would laugh all the way to the bank when the playoffs were worked out. Now that the conference has more parity, we really need SOS to factor as heavily as it did in the BCS era.
 
#98
#98
Don't mind auto bids for 5 conf champs.

But I'm fully against the 1-4 auto bids and BYES though.

If you're #11 and whining you got jumped by 2 smaller conference champs...do better.
 
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