Baby Boomers U.S. Worst Generation?

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#527
K-town Vol Fan said:
Alright, what is "the gays agenda"?
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Force people to act like it's normal. Force people to think that the average person is gay.

I'm fine with whatever consenting adults do, but It's not normal or regular.

Majority of gay people grow up in a single parent homes. Before you ask for statistics, find the statistics to prove me wrong. I've looked at them and I'm not doing your homework
 
#528
#528
dukdukgoose said:
Even the Gay community is starting to wake up.
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JFC, transgenderism and pedophilia? How about religion and pedophilia, since they are more closely related? I don't like offering this criticism because it's not fair to all the religious people who aren't pedos, but I'll bring it up every time somebody does it to other communities. This guy may be too young to remember when it was supposedly "gays and pedos" while the reality was priests and pastors were diddling
 
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#529
#529
Matt2496 said:
Exactly. I don't think it's necessarily a lack of acceptance from other people, but rather a lack of acceptance from themselves the way they are that drives the extraordinarily high suicide rates among this demographic.
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This is amazing. You've removed responsibility from society and family and put it on their own self-acceptance.

Meanwhile, the real world has plenty of evidence that suggests acceptance from others is strongly related to suicide. For example, the Trevor Project has data showing LGBTQ youth who don't feel support from family have more than twice the suicide attempt rate. Not even 1/3 of trans youth finds affirmation at home.

I remember seeing data that showed Utah had the highest teen gay suicide rate, and the takeaway is it's the most religious community and the least accepting.

And I caught you using gay suicide data to refute acceptance as explaining trans suicide data, but that is the completely wrong conclusion. Gay is widely accepted, but it's not totally accepted. It makes sense that it's on the spectrum between straight suicide and trans suicide. This is what you should expect if acceptance matters.

In a way, you are right that the survivors are the ones who are resilient with their own self-acceptance. I have no idea what it's like to live not feeling accepted by my family. I have no idea what it's like not to feel accepted everywhere I go. I've felt almost totally accepted my entire life. I did feel like a religious outsider for some of my childhood, and it was a source of alienation for me, but it wasn't too bad. The point is it was easy for me to accept myself. I can't imagine what it must be like for trans youth who, even when they are accepted, probably still have insecurities about it.

You can absolve everyone and pretend like being nice and accepting doesn't matter, but it does. It saves lives.

"Although our data continue to show high rates of mental health and suicide risk among LGBTQ young people, it is crucial to note that these rates vary widely based on the way LGBTQ youth are treated." - Dr. Myeshia Price
Senior Research Scientist, The Trevor Project
 
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#530
#530
n_huffhines said:
JFC, transgenderism and pedophilia? How about religion and pedophilia, since they are more closely related? I don't like offering this criticism because it's not fair to all the religious people who aren't pedos, but I'll bring it up every time somebody does it to other communities. This guy may be too young to remember when it was supposedly "gays and pedos" while the reality was priests and pastors were diddling
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I've never condoned religious pedophilia. I've never fought for religious pedophilia. I despise it.

I've never seen a church that promoted a show that had men dressed as women doing sexual acts for money and encouraging children to participate.

Recently that's been a big thing for the trannies/drag guys and gals.

I'll show you videos if you want me to post them.
 
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dukdukgoose said:
I've never condoned religious pedophilia. I've never fought for religious pedophilia. I despise it.

I've never seen a church that promoted a show that had men dressed as women doing sexual acts for money and encouraging children to participate.

Recently that's been a big thing for the trannies/drag guys and gals.

I'll show you videos if you want me to post them.
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This analogy makes no sense. There is no equivalent to a church in the drag scenario. Would it be the bar or auditorium where the BS is happening? I'm not talking about the promoter. I am talking about the people doing evil acts. People shouldn't be doing sexual acts with kids participating, whatever that is you are referring to. And they definitely shouldn't be diddling them. And saying the "church doesn't promote it" is not convincing in the least bit to people who are concerned about the many, many diddlers. I'll prove it to you.

The trans community "does not promote pedophilia."

Did that make you feel better?
 
#532
#532
n_huffhines said:
This is amazing. You've removed responsibility from society and family and put it on their own self-acceptance.

Meanwhile, the real world has plenty of evidence that suggests acceptance from others is strongly related to suicide. For example, the Trevor Project has data showing LGBTQ youth who don't feel support from family have more than twice the suicide attempt rate. Not even 1/3 of trans youth finds affirmation at home.

I remember seeing data that showed Utah had the highest teen gay suicide rate, and the takeaway is it's the most religious community and the least accepting.

And I caught you using gay suicide data to refute acceptance as explaining trans suicide data, but that is the completely wrong conclusion. Gay is widely accepted, but it's not totally accepted. It makes sense that it's on the spectrum between straight suicide and trans suicide. This is what you should expect if acceptance matters.

In a way, you are right that the survivors are the ones who are resilient with their own self-acceptance. I have no idea what it's like to live not feeling accepted by my family. I have no idea what it's like not to feel accepted everywhere I go. I've felt almost totally accepted my entire life. I did feel like a religious outsider for some of my childhood, and it was a source of alienation for me, but it wasn't too bad. I can't imagine what it must be like for trans youth who, even when they are accepted, probably still have insecurities about it.

You can absolve everyone and pretend like being nice and accepting doesn't matter, but it does. It saves lives.

"Although our data continue to show high rates of mental health and suicide risk among LGBTQ young people, it is crucial to note that these rates vary widely based on the way LGBTQ youth are treated." - Dr. Myeshia Price
Senior Research Scientist, The Trevor Project
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Even being gay isn't accepted in most Christian circles as the Bible is pretty clear about what it thinks about that lifestyle. Yet, there is a massive disparity between the suicide rates among gay people compared to trans. The "spectrum" you refer to is exponential, with gay suicide rates being much closer to straight people than trans (which are astronomically high). Even amongst historically persecuted/oppressed groups (much worse than trans), there wasn't suicide rates this high. I will partially concede in that I'm not going to say that acceptance plays no role in these elevated rates, but something else (probably psychological in nature perhaps?) is clearly going on here besides simple acceptance.
 
#533
#533
n_huffhines said:
This analogy makes no sense. There is no equivalent to a church in the drag scenario. Would it be the bar or auditorium where the BS is happening? I'm not talking about the promoter. I am talking about the people doing evil acts. People shouldn't be doing sexual acts with kids participating, whatever that is you are referring to. And they definitely shouldn't be diddling them. And saying the "church doesn't promote it" is not convincing in the least bit to people who are concerned about the many, many diddlers. I'll prove it to you.

The trans community "does not promote pedophilia."

Did that make you feel better?
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You tried to change the subject.. It was a fail. Again I don't support Christian Pedo's .
I could be wrong but I've never seen you condone this.

 
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#534
Matt2496 said:
Even being gay isn't accepted in most Christian circles as the Bible is pretty clear about what it thinks about that lifestyle. Yet, there is a massive disparity between the suicide rates among gay people compared to trans. The "spectrum" you refer to is exponential, with gay suicide rates being much closer to straight people than trans (which are astronomically high). Even amongst historically persecuted/oppressed groups (much worse than trans), there wasn't suicide rates this high. I will partially concede in that I'm not going to say that acceptance plays no role in these elevated rates, but something else (probably psychological in nature perhaps?) is clearly going on here besides simple acceptance.
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Most gay people don't really care what the Bible says and it seems like they've been a lot happier not feeling like they are an enemy to all church-goers anymore. There is a huge difference between "we love you no matter what, son." and kicking your gay kid out, right? There is a huge difference between "we don't agree with it, but we love our neighbors" and what it used to be, which was more or less "gays and pedos rabble rabble rabble"

Are you trying to pretend trans acceptance is anywhere near the same level as gay acceptance? What world are you living in?
 
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#538
dukdukgoose said:
Why would you change the subject to Christians?

I've never seen Christians doing things like that.

You felt the need to change the subject just to expostulate. That's how your ilk works.
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The fact that you're asking this means you never understood me from the start. The point is pretty clear in post #528
 
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