Back to the 60s, Police beating college students

[marcusluvsvols]

@SDV

Lmao. Called a real lawyer. Fwiw i think Clearwater is actually a lawyer too...

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

We didn't send our finest to Vietnam.

Sure we did. The spoiled rich kids and campus hippies weren’t our finest. We also sent a disproportionate number of young black men to fight. God bless all of those veterans.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Lmao. Called a real lawyer. Fwiw i think Clearwater is actually a lawyer too...

He did ask a legitimate legal question so I thought I’d tag the guy who would know.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Sure we did. The spoiled rich kids and campus hippies weren’t our finest. We also sent a disproportionate number of young black men to fight. God bless all of those veterans.

That’s funny….how the racist elite think and how it evolves over time. In the early days black men were not allowed to fight for this country. Only considered 3/5 of a man. Civil war gave them the “right” to fight. But as we progress to the regional conflict portion of history our leaders decided to send black men instead. And white people wonder why black people don’t trust our leaders. Seems pretty clear to me.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Dude most of these protestors are out there virtue signaling or guys wanting to get laid. I’d bet 90% of them don’t have a ****ing clue on where our tax money is going or how much.

Dudes that want to get laid ought to head up to Chicago and look for teachers. They are demanding abortions be 100% covered in their new contract, so they must be willing to give it up pretty easily.

 

[hog88]

That’s funny….how the racist elite think and how it evolves over time. In the early days black men were not allowed to fight for this country. Only considered 3/5 of a man. Civil war gave them the “right” to fight. But as we progress to the regional conflict portion of history our leaders decided to send black men instead. And white people wonder why black people don’t trust our leaders. Seems pretty clear to me.

That’s not exactly accurate.

 

[Orangeslice13]

That’s not exactly accurate.

It’s not far off either.
I’ve experienced a little racism in my life when people find out I’m Jewish. I have a friend who I’d die for, a close friend who pointed out that he’s on display for racism but I can hide in plain sight. He’s right about that. From what little I’ve experienced I definitely wouldn’t want to be black. That **** would get old quickly

 

[hog88]

It’s not far off either.
I’ve experienced a little racism in my life when people find out I’m Jewish. I have a friend who I’d die for, a close friend who pointed out that he’s on display for racism but I can hide in plain sight. He’s right about that. From what little I’ve experienced I definitely wouldn’t want to be black. That **** would get old quickly

I’m not doubting that in the least. I was only referring to:

Civil war gave them the “right” to fight. But as we progress to the regional conflict portion of history our leaders decided to send black men instead.

Black men really weren’t allowed to fight until Korea and even in Vietnam is was a small percentage doing the fighting. Even through today the majority of our combat arms is made up of white boys.

 

[Orangeslice13]

I’m not doubting that in the least. I was only referring to:



Black men really weren’t allowed to fight until Korea and even in Vietnam is was a small percentage doing the fighting. Even through today the majority of our combat arms is made up of white boys.

That’s not exactly true. the original send them back to Africa tyrant Lincoln clearly said “we gave them a taste of freedom in the fight, how can we expect them to return to slavery now”

But not really worth an argument though. Shades of gray really

 

[hog88]

That’s not exactly true. the original send them back to Africa tyrant Lincoln clearly said “we gave them a taste of freedom in the fight, how can we expect them to return to slavery now”

But not really worth an argument though. Shades of gray really

Yes, they did do some fighting in the Civil war but were pretty much excluded from combat roles until Truman desegregated the military in 48.

 

[Weezer]

Nowadays, with the way spanking children is frowned upon, maybe it should be mandatory that college students take a little beating every now and then. We'll just call it "Valuable Life Lessons 101".

 

[hog88]

Nowadays, with the way spanking children is frowned upon, maybe it should be mandatory that college students take a little beating every now and then. We'll just call it "Valuable Life Lessons 101".

I've always thought that when we stopped boys from fighting we were making a mistake. Kids should learn early on how to take an ass whipping, get up dust themselves off and move on.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Sure we did. The spoiled rich kids and campus hippies weren’t our finest. We also sent a disproportionate number of young black men to fight. God bless all of those veterans.

A lot of those went too.

It's a draft. You're romanticizing the government forcing young men into the meat grinder.

I don't understand you people.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

It’s not far off either.
I’ve experienced a little racism in my life when people find out I’m Jewish. I have a friend who I’d die for, a close friend who pointed out that he’s on display for racism but I can hide in plain sight. He’s right about that. From what little I’ve experienced I definitely wouldn’t want to be black. That **** would get old quickly

For what it's worth my level of disdain for you didn't change when I found out you were Orangeslicestein.

 

[RockyTop85]

That’s not exactly true. the original send them back to Africa tyrant Lincoln clearly said “we gave them a taste of freedom in the fight, how can we expect them to return to slavery now”

But not really worth an argument though. Shades of gray really

I can’t find anything about him actually saying this.

The emancipation proclamation was signed closer to the start of the war than the end, and published seven months before Gettysburg. I don’t know of any consideration being given to reinstitution slavery between the proclamation and passage of the 13th Amendment by Congress, Lincoln’s assassination, or ratification of the 13th amendment.

Was that a real quote/paraphrase or just your conclusion about what his thoughts were?

 

[DinkinFlicka]

I've always thought that when we stopped boys from fighting we were making a mistake. Kids should learn early on how to take an ass whipping, get up dust themselves off and move on.

God forbid we teach them to solve their problems without beating the piss out of each other.

It's nice pretending we don't have a problematic culture of inherent violence, isn't it?

 

[hog88]

God forbid we teach them to solve their problems without beating the piss out of each other.

It's nice pretending we don't have a problematic culture of inherent violence, isn't it?

It has gotten to be a problem. Boys grow up today thinking they can say/do just about anything with little to no fear of repercussions. A good punch in the nose early on is a good lesson in politeness.

Nothing wrong with 2 boys settling a petty squabble with their fists, it's a life lesson. Experiencing a good fight often times teaches a person that violence is not the answer.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

God forbid we teach them to solve their problems without beating the piss out of each other.

It's nice pretending we don't have a problematic culture of inherent violence, isn't it?

Interesting comment. Where do "No Country for Old Men" and "Pulp Fiction" rank on your lilst? Asking for a friend

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Interesting comment. Where do "No Country for Old Men" and "Pulp Fiction" rank on your lilst? Asking for a friend

Are you asking me to compare fictional cinema to real life?

 

[DinkinFlicka]

It has gotten to be a problem. Boys grow up today thinking they can say/do just about anything with little to no fear of repercussions. A good punch in the nose early on is a good lesson in politeness.

Nothing wrong with 2 boys settling a petty squabble with their fists, it's a life lesson. Experiencing a good fight often times teaches a person that violence is not the answer.

No such thing as a fair fight. Figured you'd know that by now.

 

[n_huffhines]

It has gotten to be a problem. Boys grow up today thinking they can say/do just about anything with little to no fear of repercussions. A good punch in the nose early on is a good lesson in politeness.

Nothing wrong with 2 boys settling a petty squabble with their fists, it's a life lesson. Experiencing a good fight often times teaches a person that violence is not the answer.

I'm not against boys scrapping but let's not pretend your way doesn't have its own problems. My hometown had a kid who never had to learn his manners because even the grown men couldn't take him. Wasted a scholly to play football at Nebraska and ended up hooked on meth and beating up his GF...

Kids are nicer today. Maybe my generation had better manners around adults but we treated each other like absolute garbage, and part of that was fighting, so I'm not sure I can agree with the bold. I mean, I would say boys today are way more scared/hesitant to say a lot of things than I ever was. We would have never hesitated to call a girl fat behind her back. It's different now.

 

[NashVol11]

It has gotten to be a problem. Boys grow up today thinking they can say/do just about anything with little to no fear of repercussions. A good punch in the nose early on is a good lesson in politeness.

Nothing wrong with 2 boys settling a petty squabble with their fists, it's a life lesson. Experiencing a good fight often times teaches a person that violence is not the answer.

Or it teaches the person winning the fight that they can just escalate to violence and “win” even if they’re dead wrong

 

[hog88]

No such thing as a fair fight. Figured you'd know that by now.

There used to be such a thing, I agree that it's not the case anymore.

 

[RockyTop85]

I'm not against boys scrapping but let's not pretend your way doesn't have its own problems. My hometown had a kid who never had to learn his manners because even the grown men couldn't take him. Wasted a scholly to play football at Nebraska and ended up hooked on meth and beating up his GF...

Kids are nicer today. Maybe my generation had better manners around adults but we treated each other like absolute garbage, and part of that was fighting.

I think broader legal definitions of justifications like self defense and sufficient provocation would go a long way.

E.g. - I don’t have a problem with how the city of Montgomery handled that waterfront beat down of those white people last year. I think the white people probably learned a more valuable lesson from suffering immediate consequences than they would have if they had just been arrested and prosecuted over the course of several months. Hitting people with a folding chair was a bit too far and I think that guy got prosecuted, too.

I used to see **** every day that could have been handled by an ass whooping. Used to see people like your hometown guy, too. Think there’s probably a fine line between too little and too much and we’re not on it.

 

[hog88]

I'm not against boys scrapping but let's not pretend your way doesn't have its own problems. My hometown had a kid who never had to learn his manners because even the grown men couldn't take him. Wasted a scholly to play football at Nebraska and ended up hooked on meth and beating up his GF...

Kids are nicer today. Maybe my generation had better manners around adults but we treated each other like absolute garbage, and part of that was fighting, so I'm not sure I can agree with the bold. I mean, I would say boys today are way more scared/hesitant to say a lot of things than I ever was. We would have never hesitated to call a girl fat behind her back. It's different now.

There will always be outliers.

Kids aren't nicer today, on social media they are nasty little chits to each other. We at least had to mind our tongues or else risk having to fight.