Bad look for the playoff committee so far [updated]

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UTFranklinVol said:
Two playoff games down and both have been horribly boring and uncompetitive. didn't expect Indiana or SMU to win but certainly thought they would be better than this. Hopefully from now on strength of schedule becomes a more outsized factor in selecting teams. Someone in the SEC could have put on a better show than this garbage.

Here's hoping that someone is Tennessee lol GB🍊!
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I don't know how anyone with a clue couldn't see this coming a mile away. CFB ain't CBB, and this is not and never will be March Madness. Upsets happen there due to a unique scheme or a hot shooter, but speed, talent, size and depth of talent will always win in CFB.

They can expand to 24 teams (and probably will), and all it will mean is more ugly blowouts like these and the playoff coming down to the 2-3 teams that could realistically win in the end every year.

But as long as the networks keep forking over the cash and people keep watching, the powers that be will be happy.
 
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Nerwen Aldarion said:
It would help if conference champs didn’t get automatic byes

Give conference champs an automatic spot, but make the top four teams get the bye.

Would allow a lot more even matchups in the first and second rounds
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I don't agree with giving ANY conference champs an automatic bid.

If a conference champ is among the top 12 teams in the country, it'll get a spot. If it isn't, it shouldn't.

Really simple: top 12 teams are in, and are seeded in the order of their relative rankings.

After that, it's just a matter of teaching the CFP committee, who put together those rankings, to factor strength of competition into the Win-Loss records of each team. 12-0 against a bunch of Sister Mary's Schools of the Blind is not as good as, say, 9-3 in the SEC.

(and watch out, there are plenty of Sister Mary colleges even in some Power 5 conferences--no automatic kudos for beating any team with "B10" or "ACC" after their name)

Go Vols!
 
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wrangler said:
This makes it harder for the committee to pretend that records and championships of different conferences have some parity, and that the number of wins means something when a team plays weaker competition.
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"Strength of record", my friend. Something that never existed until created by this "committee" to justify the presence of Penn State, Indiana, Notre Dame, and SMU.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
I don't agree with giving ANY conference champs an automatic bid.

If a conference champ is among the top 12 teams in the country, it'll get a spot. If it isn't, it shouldn't.

Really simple: top 12 teams are in, and are seeded in the order of their relative rankings.

After that, it's just a matter of teaching the CFP committee, who put together those rankings, to factor strength of competition into the Win-Loss records of each team. 12-0 against a bunch of Sister Mary's Schools of the Blind is not as good as, say, 9-3 in the SEC.

(and watch out, there are plenty of Sister Mary colleges even in some Power 5 conferences--no automatic kudos for beating any team with "B10" or "ACC" after their name)

Go Vols!
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Honestly I wouldn’t mind doing away with conference champs getting an automatic bid either. But going that route would essentially eliminate conference championship games entirely and the conferences don’t want that

So in the interest of keeping conferences happy, I say give winners a spot but not an automatic bye
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
Two playoff games down and both have been horribly boring and uncompetitive. didn't expect Indiana or SMU to win but certainly thought they would be better than this. Hopefully from now on strength of schedule becomes a more outsized factor in selecting teams. Someone in the SEC could have put on a better show than this garbage.

Here's hoping that someone is Tennessee lol GB🍊!
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Very bad look and most people knew this was coming. The committee needs to be replaced with people who understand college football. Indiana is much worse than they appear. UGA will whip ND easily. Indiana and SMU should have never even been in the discussion. Curt Cignetti running his mouth before the game is a perfect example....no big time coach does that. He is not elite, the program is not elite, the team is not elite. They just aren't there.

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Nerwen Aldarion said:
It would help if conference champs didn’t get automatic byes

Give conference champs an automatic spot, but make the top four teams get the bye.

Would allow a lot more even matchups in the first and second rounds
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This. Yes, win your conference and you are in. I have no problem at all with Clemson being there, or Arizona State. But all it should get you is a spot. While this is at 12 teams, the four best teams should get the byes even if three of them are all in the same conference or something like that. ASU shouldn't be a 4 seed after winning a so-so conference and losing by 10 points to a 5-7 team. You want a 4 with that schedule, go 13-0.
 
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jsc1973 said:
This. Yes, win your conference and you are in. I have no problem at all with Clemson being there, or Arizona State. But all it should get you is a spot. While this is at 12 teams, the four best teams should get the byes even if three of them are all in the same conference or something like that. ASU shouldn't be a 4 seed after winning a so-so conference and losing by 10 points to a 5-7 team. You want a 4 with that schedule, go 13-0.
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Exactly, it would eliminate crap like Penn State basically getting a free ride to the third round
 
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voltnh said:
Losing to Vanderbilt/Kentucky has consequences...
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Exactly. Indiana and SMU earned their spots. They can’t choose their conference opponents and if we were in their shoes we’d riot if we got left out.

The whole “12 best teams” is the stupidest crap ever. You earn your spot by winning more games on your schedule than other P4 teams. Recruit rankings, eye tests, etc are all dumb BS for TV marketing. Competitive sports are merit based and you earn that through winning football games.

Building superconferences and whining because your big bad teams can’t survive their conference schedules is so hypocritical. If they/we want all those huge TV deals they/we have to accept the fact that only so many schools in one conference can win 10 games in a season.
 
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AllVol11717 said:
Exactly. Indiana and SMU earned their spots. They can’t choose their conference opponents and if we were in their shoes we’d riot if we got left out.

The whole “12 best teams” is the stupidest crap ever. You earn your spot by winning more games on your schedule than other P4 teams. Recruit rankings, eye tests, etc are all dumb BS for TV marketing. Competitive sports are merit based and you earn that through winning football games.

Building superconferences and whining because your big bad teams can’t survive their conference schedules is so hypocritical. If they/we want all those huge TV deals they/we have to accept the fact that only so many schools in one conference can win 10 games in a season.
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Don't come in here with your logic!! Lol
The solution was to have four pods in a four 16 team conferences. The conference tournament starts the CFP. Last 4 teams standing...
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
Two playoff games down and both have been horribly boring and uncompetitive. didn't expect Indiana or SMU to win but certainly thought they would be better than this. Hopefully from now on strength of schedule becomes a more outsized factor in selecting teams. Someone in the SEC could have put on a better show than this garbage.

Here's hoping that someone is Tennessee lol GB🍊!
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There goal was to make sure the SEC didn't dominate. The only way to do that was:
1. put only 3 SEC teams in. There should have been 5
2. Send Tennessee to Ohio St. If Tennessee wins send them 2000 miles from home to play Oregon
3. Give Notre Dame and Penn St. gimmes in round 1. Penn St. now plays Boise State

The fix was in in their first release with 4 out of top 5 from the Big10. Complete pathetic bias.
 
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BearBryant said:
There goal was to make sure the SEC didn't dominate. The only way to do that was:
1. put only 3 SEC teams in. There should have been 5
2. Send Tennessee to Ohio St. If Tennessee wins send them 2000 miles from home to play Oregon
3. Give Notre Dame and Penn St. gimmes in round 1. Penn St. now plays Boise State

The fix was in in their first release with 4 out of top 5 from the Big10. Complete pathetic bias.
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How much did the committee pay the SMU QB to throw three pick-6's?
 
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Golfprovol said:
Don't come in here with your logic!! Lol
The solution was to have four pods in a four 16 team conferences. The conference tournament starts the CFP. Last 4 teams standing...
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Yeah anything that creates more cross-P4 play will be helpful with creating a better field

With the current format, I wish we’d see the current P4 teams have a schedule of 8 conference games, 1 game against each of the other 3 P4, and then one G5/FCS payout game.
 
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