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zestyzoo23

zestyzoo23

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Can we recruit people who can handle the basketball. My God Trae Golden s***s his pants when he sees a press. Adapt to it. Not the first time he has seen it this game.
 
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zestyzoo23 said:
Can we recruit people who can handle the basketball. My God Trae Golden s***s his pants when he sees a press. Adapt to it. Not the first time he has seen it this game.
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How quickly things change.

Have you seen the past 4 games, we were fine handling the ball for the most part in those. Passing has looked really bad in that same span though.
 
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Firs off this could go in the thread talking about guard play.

Second nobody complained about it afte the Florida or Arkansas press.
 
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zestyzoo23 said:
Can we recruit people who can handle the basketball. My God Trae Golden s***s his pants when he sees a press. Adapt to it. Not the first time he has seen it this game.
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Nah man Trae does no wrong. Its all McBrick's fault. Four star Trae is the man.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
That's your opinion, is 0-7 and 5 fouls really his talent level? Trae clearly outplayed skylar and kept us in the game the first half. Skylar can handle pressure? That's laughable

Btw I'm white, but throwing out racist remarks just continues to make you look dumber.
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When shouldn't golden outplay mcbee?? One is a 4 star and one is a walk-on. You give mcbee the expectations of a 4 star and give golden a pass by saying "well atleast he had a good 45 seconds at the end of the half. Good logic there man, riveting stuff.
 
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Trae was arguably our best player today. Had no help from any of the other guards. And Maymon, the other guy who was actually doing work, also turned the ball over way too many times. Just a thoroughly awful game for our offense.
 
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Incipient said:
Trae was arguably our best player today. Had no help from any of the other guards. And Maymon, the other guy who was actually doing work, also turned the ball over way too many times. Just a thoroughly awful game for our offense.
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Yup. Quite simple.
 
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altidore17 said:
When shouldn't golden outplay mcbee?? One is a 4 star and one is a walk-on. You give mcbee the expectations of a 4 star and give golden a pass by saying "well atleast he had a good 45 seconds at the end of the half. Good logic there man, riveting stuff.
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And jajaun smith was a walk on who outplayed just about every scholarship player we had. Just because they are a walk on doesn't mean they are deserving of the same criticism as every other player that sees major minutes, common sense here not that complicated.

I don't give golden a pass. Your reading comprehension is absolutely atrocious. You say people say things they never said, try to stick to the truth whitey.
 
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Incipient said:
Trae was arguably our best player today. Had no help from any of the other guards. And Maymon, the other guy who was actually doing work, also turned the ball over way too many times. Just a thoroughly awful game for our offense.
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When the guards are too scared to handle the ball and ask their power forward to do so instead, you'll get some turnovers.
 
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altidore17 said:
When the guards are too scared to handle the ball and ask their power forward to do so instead, you'll get some turnovers.
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Golden and Maymon were forced to basically play 2 on 5. It's no surprise that both of them turned the ball over too often. But if you want to locate the blame for the loss somewhere other than "the whole team," it's gotta be Cam and the McDuo.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
And jajaun smith was a walk on who outplayed just about every scholarship player we had. Just because they are a walk on doesn't mean they are deserving of the same criticism as every other player that sees major minutes, common sense here not that complicated.

I don't give golden a pass. Your reading comprehension is absolutely atrocious. You say people say things they never said, try to stick to the truth whitey.
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Smith had much more talent than McBee does. Just like Golden has more talent than both. Why one would hold McBee and Golden to the same standard is beyond me. That's like holding Tyler Summitt to the same standard as Jordan McCrae.
 
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I didn't see Trae didn't dribble with his left hand ALL DAY LONG. It really seemed like something was wrong with his left hand or his ankle was bugging him and caused him to lose confidence in going to his left.
 
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Incipient said:
Golden and Maymon were forced to basically play 2 on 5. It's no surprise that both of them turned the ball over too often. But if you want to locate the blame for the loss somewhere other than "the whole team," it's gotta be Cam and the McDuo.
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Trae's problem (like many games) is he tried to walk the ball up against the press. He had no desire to attack it like he should.
 
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altidore17 said:
Smith had much more talent than McBee does. Just like Golden has more talent than both. Why one would hold McBee and Golden to the same standard is beyond me. That's like holding Tyler Summitt to the same standard as Jordan McCrae.
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Jajaun was a 2* mcbee was a 2*
Tyler was a 0* an McRae was a 4*


Yea good comparison. Is it hard for you to look this dumb? I expect him to do one thing, SHOOT, he didn't do it well today so I'll bring it up. Golden is expected to do more, ball handling m, passing, shooting, defense etc all the things a complete bball player does. He sucked at a few today, but atleast did good in other areas.

You said golden was more harmful to the team today than golden, please tell me how?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Atleast he scores more than he gives up, same cant be said for mcbrick.
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Actually in the last 5 games with almost equal playing time:

Golden has 72 points and 17 turnovers.
McBee has 52 points and 2 turnovers.

Every turnover is a potential 4-6 point score reversal.
Lose a possession and give an extra to the opponent.
McBee is much more efficient at ball handling.
 
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calban said:
Actually in the last 5 games with almost equal playing time:

Golden has 72 points and 17 turnovers.
McBee has 52 points and 2 turnovers.

Every turnover is a potential 4-6 point score reversal.
Lose a possession and give an extra to the opponent.
McBee is much more efficient at ball handling.
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Potentially, but it's not always. How many points did the opposing teams actually score off those turnovers.

We also were going off yesterday when the mcbee scored 0 and gave up 9 ft points. Golden turnovers led to 10 PTs I believe it was but scored 12.

You may not agree with this but mcbee missing 7 3's somewhat could be considered a turnover or 2 as well. I remember a few leading to run outs the other way, just saying.

My original point was, golden isn't more harmful to this team as someone said. We have seen how the PG position looks with someone not named golden playing it this year.
 
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just thought the vols lost and no one played good, it would been hard to beat anyone with the performance today, just saying part of a team game
 
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lawsvols said:
just thought the vols lost and no one played good, it would been hard to beat anyone with the performance today, just saying part of a team game
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Very true. You can get by usually with one of two guys playing ba, but when your whole team plays some of their worst basketball it's very hard to win.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Potentially, but it's not always. How many points did the opposing teams actually score off those turnovers.

We also were going off yesterday when the mcbee scored 0 and gave up 9 ft points. Golden turnovers led to 10 PTs I believe it was but scored 12.

You may not agree with this but mcbee missing 7 3's somewhat could be considered a turnover or 2 as well. I remember a few leading to run outs the other way, just saying.

My original point was, golden isn't more harmful to this team as someone said. We have seen how the PG position looks with someone not named golden playing it this year.
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Someone's backtracking in the face of factual information.. And saying a missed 3pt is a turnover is idiotic. Just admit you were wrong. Again.
 
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VolsFan4Ever-11 said:
Just like you are having a hard time admitting you were wrong.
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About what? Look at the numbers. McBee's 2 TO's hurt less than Golden's 17 or whatever it was.. Even if McBee was 0-6 yesterday. Atleast 3 of those were shots from 28 feet trying to beat the shot clock due to no ball movement by the point guard.
 
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