Baltimore question

Is Baltimore a dangerous and filthy place?

  • Yes

    Votes: 108 96.4%

  • No

    Votes: 4 3.6%
  • Total voters
    112
#551
#551
DinkinFlicka said:
That's the number that had been imported over a period of time. You're also naming the last Western country to abolish it as well as the largest importer in the Americas.
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Brazil had a population of between 10 and 15 million in 1888 and between 15 and 20% were slaves.
 
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#553
DinkinFlicka said:
Christ on a ****ing cross...


Indentured servitude differs from slavery because the labor, though unpaid, is still working towards something. It would repay a debt, it would be used as a means of earning transportation, housing, or a plot of land.

I'm gonna start charging you for the education because I operate under the mantra that sh*t ain't free.
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I said it was a form of slavery. You said it wasn’t. I am right again, I know what indentured servitude is. And it IS a form of slavery. Better get your money back from your 2 years of community college online!

Indentured servitude - Wikipedia
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
I said it was a form of slavery. You said it wasn’t. I am right again, I know what indentured servitude is. And it IS a form of slavery. Better get your money back from your 2 years of community college online!

Indentured servitude - Wikipedia
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From your Wiki citation (lol)

"Unfree labour includes all forms of slavery, and related institutions (e.g. debt slavery, serfdom, corvée and labour camps)."

Related institution, yes. Definitively different, yes.
 
#558
#558
DinkinFlicka said:
The article itself states that it's redefined. It covers human/sex trafficking which is not officially sanctioned by law.
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Alliance estimated 20 million in forced labor today. 16 million in private sector and 4 million in government sector. Read the freakin' article.
 
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#561
1972 Grad said:
I see you don't like being proven wrong.
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Eh, nobody does. But everyone has been incorrect in various points throughout this discussion. Y'all keep moving the goal posts and shifting the discussion when this all started with my tongue in cheek response to some dude saying the founding fathers would be a fan of Obama. You know, the one you incorrectly referred to as race baiting
 
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#562
hog88 said:
oh so we are now comparing scientific ethics of the 1700 and 1800s to today?
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It's an inherently objective school of thought. I don't see why we shouldn't.

Or, we could keep making excuses for mankind's atrocities in the name of some cause I'm failing to see.
 
#564
#564
ajvol01 said:
There still are, but we don’t talk about it or do anything about it

Human trafficking is modern slavery.
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Human trafficking is a topic that is frequently discussed on all sorts of mainstream mediums across the world. Our POTUS has taken measures to combat it.

To say it isn't being addressed is a little absurd.
 
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#565
DinkinFlicka said:
Eh, nobody does. But everyone has been incorrect in various points throughout this discussion. Y'all keep moving the goal posts and shifting the discussion when this all started with my tongue in cheek response to some dude saying the founding fathers would be a fan of Obama. You know, the one you incorrectly referred to as race baiting
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Merry Christmas to you and the rest of the crew tonight. Enjoyed the banter. I'm outta here.
 
#567
#567
The only slaves in Baltimore today are the sex trafficked kind.

Baltimore is a very popular place for sex trafficking. You can go to a certain part of town and see the results. It’s heartbreaking.
 
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DC_Vol said:
The only slaves in Baltimore today are the sex trafficked kind.

Baltimore is a very popular place for sex trafficking. You can go to a certain part of town and see the results. It’s heartbreaking.
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My roommate in college had a cousin who was a victim of it. Pretty frightening stuff, especially seeing it's way more common than one would think in our own backyard.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
Human trafficking is a topic that is frequently discussed on all sorts of mainstream mediums across the world. Our POTUS has taken measures to combat it.

To say it isn't being addressed is a little absurd.
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What percentage of people do you think talk about or genuinely care about abolishing human trafficking?

I’d guess less than 20%, maybe less than 10%.
 
#572
#572
ajvol01 said:
What percentage of people do you think talk about or genuinely care about abolishing human trafficking?

I’d guess less than 20%, maybe less than 10%.
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If we're playing the guessing game here, I'd say I'm younger than you and folks in my age range (25-35) talk about it as much if not more than a lot of worldwide social issues.
 
#573
#573
DinkinFlicka said:
Nor do I. I enjoy the ribbing.

Your wife is *still* telling you that it's Santa??
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I think you have the wrong opinion of me. I'm going to tell you a story that I haven't told to anyone, not even my wife. Last week I was in Florida, driving through Panama City, , and while stopped in traffic saw an older homeless looking couple. They may have not been homeless, but they were pitiful looking. They may have been displaced by the hurricane last year. There is still temporary housing down there.

The old man was pushing a wheelchair with this poor little woman, and he was unable to push it up the bank by the roadway up to the Walgreen's parking lot with her in it. I couldn't stop right there as there was no place to pull off. As soon as the light turned, I turned into the store (entrance was on the side street) and headed back toward them to help. By the time I got there, he had apparently walked her up to the parking lot and was bringing the wheelchair. I got out and held onto her until he got there with the wheelchair because she was very unsteady on her feet and weak.

I helped her sit down in the wheelchair while he held it steady. She thanked me and they never asked me for anything. I opened my billfold and gave them almost all my cash, and said Merry Christmas. She cried and then blew me a kiss when I drove off. I think I cried half the way back to my place an hour away.
 
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#574
1972 Grad said:
I think you have the wrong opinion of me. I'm going to tell you a story that I haven't told to anyone, not even my wife. Last week I was in Florida, driving through Panama City, , and while stopped in traffic saw an older homeless looking couple. They may have not been homeless, but they were pitiful looking. They may have been displaced by the hurricane last year. There is still temporary housing down there.

The old man was pushing a wheelchair with this poor little woman, and he was unable to push it up the bank by the roadway up to the Walgreen's parking lot with her in it. I couldn't stop right there as there was no place to pull off. As soon as the light turned, I turned into the store (entrance was on the side street) and headed back toward them to help. By the time I got there, he had apparently walked her up to the parking lot and was bringing the wheelchair. I got out and held onto her until he got there with the wheelchair because she was very unsteady on her feet and weak.

I helped her sit down in the wheelchair while he held it steady. She thanked me and they never asked me for anything. I opened my billfold and gave them almost all my cash, and said Merry Christmas. She cried and then blew me a kiss when I drove off. I think I cried half the way back to my place an hour away.
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Good on you for performing a decent act but I'm not sure I have an opinion of you since I don't actually know you, nor do I have an opinion of you after this anecdote.

It's VN, man. Only two posters I have opinions of are Louder because we've actually hung out a few times and Slice because I had the privilege of meeting him and his lovely family last year. You can learn more about a man in 5 minutes of shaking his hand, looking him in the eye, and holding an actual conversation than years of firing off behind the cold anonymity of a keyboard.
 
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