Bama and playoff?

[ptcarter]

So you believe if Tennessee and LSU both went 12-0 and dominated the competition and then Tennessee loses in SEC Championship game to LSU by 1 point they should not be considered for playoff? As you said it is suppose to be the best 4 teams.

I may be understanding the original post incorrectly. My guess is he's saying a team that doesn't make it to the championship game at all shouldn't be considered. Also, I don't think it's possible for both teams in the SECCG to be 12-0.

 

[IPleadInsanity]

So you believe if Tennessee and LSU both went 12-0 and dominated the competition and then Tennessee loses in SEC Championship game to LSU by 1 point they should not be considered for playoff? As you said it is suppose to be the best 4 teams.

I said it should be the 4 best champions playing off, no championship no play. Championships should mean something otherwise why play championship games. You beat a top team they should not get a rematch.

 

[Remy]

But I still don't think Tua is as good as Hurts.

Not to try to hijack the thread, but are you serious, dude?

Actually Tua is not as good as Hurts, he's better.

 

[GreveHaller]

I said it should be the 4 best champions playing off, no championship no play. Championships should mean something otherwise why play championship games. You beat a top team they should not get a rematch.

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Its amazing that people will cry so loud for a playoff so that the "game can be played on the field" but applaud for teams to be in the playoff because they look good. They had their chance on the field and lost. We have a beauty contest, not a championship bracket

No conference championship = no CFP appearance.

 

[XknoxvolsX]

I said it should be the 4 best champions playing off, no championship no play. Championships should mean something otherwise why play championship games. You beat a top team they should not get a rematch.

My thoughts are this:

Bama has lost twice, one in two different seasons. Yet, in both of those two seasons they went on to win the NC. One was in the BCS era and the other the playoff era. Therefore, the committee seems correct allowing them in.

I am curious if they would do that again if Ga beats LSU in the SECG and allows them in over LSU. Or, if they would allow all three and undefeated Clemson. Would three SEC one loss teams be in over one loss OK, Penn St., Minnesota, etc. The SEC used to carry a lot of weight.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

Alabama would only have a shot in that scenario if other conference teams had a complete meltdown and even then it would have to be massive.

Georgia would get a bid obviously and LSU would still get one but Alabama wouldn’t get in over a 1 loss Clemson, OSU, or OU. Alabama’s only hope is LSU wins out and there is some chaos in the other conferences.

There is no way a one loss Clemson gets in at all. They wouldn’t have a single top 25 opponent all season.

 

[SCRocket]

I wish winning the conference was a must.

 

[SCRocket]

Until we go 11-1

 

[IPleadInsanity]

My thoughts are this:

Bama has lost twice, one in two different seasons. Yet, in both of those two seasons they went on to win the NC. One was in the BCS era and the other the playoff era. Therefore, the committee seems correct allowing them in.

I am curious if they would do that again if Ga beats LSU in the SECG and allows them in over LSU. Or, if they would allow all three and undefeated Clemson. Would three SEC one loss teams be in over one loss OK, Penn St., Minnesota, etc. The SEC used to carry a lot of weight.

Yes, Bama got a 2nd chance and made good use of it. They never should have had that chance. This current scenario is a good example. Bama could get in without even playing in the championship game, LSU could play the championship game losing to UGA and not make it in. I doubt they will take 1 loss teams over big conference undefeated teams but there are really no rules so who knows. Make some rules.

 

[thehardknoxlife]

I still think a 6 team playoff is the best way to get all the best teams playing. Give #1 and #2 a bye which makes the regular season very important. The P5 champs all get in, then you get one at large team which could be a 1 loss SEC team or like UCF of recent who I think deserved a shot and they proved it when they beat a a top 10 Auburn team in the bowl game.

 

[bamawriter]

Yes, Bama got a 2nd chance and made good use of it. They never should have had that chance. This current scenario is a good example. Bama could get in without even playing in the championship game, LSU could play the championship game losing to UGA and not make it in. I doubt they will take 1 loss teams over big conference undefeated teams but there are really no rules so who knows. Make some rules.

If the SECCG is LSU's only loss, Bama is not getting in over them.

 

[Glocker_Alum_2005]

If bama wins out, they only way they in is if Baylor loses. Otherwise its LSU, OSU, Clemson, Baylor.

 

[05_never_again]

My thoughts are this:

Bama has lost twice, one in two different seasons. Yet, in both of those two seasons they went on to win the NC. One was in the BCS era and the other the playoff era. Therefore, the committee seems correct allowing them in.

I am curious if they would do that again if Ga beats LSU in the SECG and allows them in over LSU. Or, if they would allow all three and undefeated Clemson. Would three SEC one loss teams be in over one loss OK, Penn St., Minnesota, etc. The SEC used to carry a lot of weight.

Yep. As much as I hate it, if there was ever a team that deserves a benefit of the doubt it's Alabama.

Over the last few years, I think the perception of the SEC being the best conference or deserving benefits of the doubt has shifted more to Alabama being deserving of benefits of the doubt. The SEC doesn't carry as much weight as it did in the early 2010s.

 

[txbo]

I still think a 6 team playoff is the best way to get all the best teams playing. Give #1 and #2 a bye which makes the regular season very important. The P5 champs all get in, then you get one at large team which could be a 1 loss SEC team or like UCF of recent who I think deserved a shot and they proved it when they beat a a top 10 Auburn team in the bowl game.

I like this except I'd make the number 6 team come from a non power five conference. Lose your conference and you're out.

 

[txbo]

Yep. As much as I hate it, if there was ever a team that deserves a benefit of the doubt it's Alabama.

Over the last few years, I think the perception of the SEC being the best conference or deserving benefits of the doubt has shifted more to Alabama being deserving of benefits of the doubt. The SEC doesn't carry as much weight as it did in the early 2010s.

The conference has still performed very well in bowl season. It's just that Bama has taken their program to a whole different level.

 

[S.C. OrangeMan]

Disagree about Clemson. They’re not getting in with a loss unless all hell breaks loose.

Clemson is very unlikely to lose.

They are favored by at least 30 again at Wake Forest, should be favored by around 24 against South Carolina, and will be heavy favorites in their league championship game.

They don't have a strong schedule, but so far, except for LSU, neither does Bama.

Clemson had a weak schedule last year, too. They only had to play Alabama. Bama had a much tougher schedule. They had to play Clemson.

 

[GVF]

But I still don't think Tua is as good as Hurts.

Not to try to hijack the thread, but are you serious, dude?

I would second his motion.

 

[ptcarter]

My thoughts are this:

Bama has lost twice, one in two different seasons. Yet, in both of those two seasons they went on to win the NC. One was in the BCS era and the other the playoff era. Therefore, the committee seems correct allowing them in.

I am curious if they would do that again if Ga beats LSU in the SECG and allows them in over LSU. Or, if they would allow all three and undefeated Clemson. Would three SEC one loss teams be in over one loss OK, Penn St., Minnesota, etc. The SEC used to carry a lot of weight.

It's an easier path to a championship if you get a "bye" for a conference championship game I think. Rephrased, winning the conference is like winning the battle yet losing the war, if the team you beat gets in.

 

[GVF]

I said it should be the 4 best champions playing off, no championship no play. Championships should mean something otherwise why play championship games. You beat a top team they should not get a rematch.

I say four best teams. Not four best champions. No way in h*** the Pac-12 winner is remotely close to Bama. I could also go for the 5 Power 5 conference winners and the best/highest rated outlier for hole number 6, and just take it to a 6 team playoff. Bye in 2nd round decided by longest straw to keep it legit. Or take 5 automatic and 2 top at large P5, and slot number 8 goes to highest rated G5. And go to 8 teams. That way all conferences and conference champions have to put up or shut up. And the best of the step children gets a chance. Like Appy.

 

[rjd970]

Bama's schedule is awful. They have lost to the only decent team they played, and they never had the lead in that game, even playing at home. Their best win is Texas A&M.

On the flip side, it was a close game and it was the #2 team in the nation and they still have to play Auburn.

It would be a travesty if they get in the playoffs without winning their conference, much less even their division, IMO. They would have also probably got in if they beat LSU and lost the conference championship game. So in effect, the LSU game didn't matter either way as long as they beat Auburn.

The Bama privilege is real.

 

[Dudleys87]

They don’t deserve it this year.
There’s not an argument to be made for them to get in

Not winning the west
Not winning a conference title
Weak schedule. 1 good win.

And Gus is due to pull a hat trick. If they drop a 2nd game that could be it.

 

[ptcarter]

They don’t deserve it this year.
There’s not an argument to be made for them to get in

Not winning the west
Not winning a conference title
Weak schedule. 1 good win.

And Gus is due to pull a hat trick. If they drop a 2nd game that could be it.

I agree with everything you said. I'll add one more, a small and somewhat insignificant point. Living in Alabama, the fanbase feels entitled beyond reality. The powers that be need to quit feeding this beast. SEC is weak this year with the exception of 3, maybe 4 teams. You can no longer use the argument "We deserve in because we are SEC". Play a strong schedule like LSU has, and then make your case.

War Eagle (in a few weeks). Hope Auburn puts the dagger in the Vampires heart.

Do I sound biased?? Gosh.. didn't mean to be.

 

[Dudleys87]

I agree with everything you said. I'll add one more, a small and somewhat insignificant point. Living in Alabama, the fanbase feels entitled beyond reality. The powers that be need to quit feeding this beast. SEC is weak this year with the exception of 3, maybe 4 teams. You can no longer use the argument "We deserve in because we are SEC". Play a strong schedule like LSU has, and then make your case.

War Eagle (in a few weeks). Hope Auburn puts the dagger in the Vampires heart.

Do I sound biased?? Gosh.. didn't mean to be.

Entitled yes.
A lot of their fans took to social media calling for Saban to be fired

 

[ptcarter]

Entitled yes.
A lot of their fans took to social media calling for Saban to be fired

I saw that, but I think it's fake news.. Looks like a bunch of Tennessee fans trying to troll. Obviously there are those that have drank too much Crimson Kool-aid and believe they will never ever lose another game. Those are fun to mess with.

I worked with some of them years ago. I know 2 guys that couldn't show up for work on Monday after a Bama loss. OMG get a life dudes..

 

[Dudleys87]

I saw that, but I think it's fake news.. Looks like a bunch of Tennessee fans trying to troll. Obviously there are those that have drank too much Crimson Kool-aid and believe they will never ever lose another game. Those are fun to mess with.

I worked with some of them years ago. I know 2 guys that couldn't show up for work on Monday after a Bama loss. OMG get a life dudes..

No, they’re real. Just tune into Pawls show they’ll be full of beer and tears today